No more discourse. Everyone go tell one of your system members at least one thing you appreciate them for.
Aww this is cute! Passing it on for others. You hear me? Discourse is canceled. CANCELED!!! Go do this instead 🥰
☆── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── ↻ ◁ II ▷ ↺ ─── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ──☆
🕸*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*˚⁺‧͙⁺˚*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*˚⁺‧͙⁺˚*·̩̩̥͙*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*˚ 𝓖𝓮𝓷𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓵 ˚*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*˚·̩̩̥͙*˚⁺‧͙͙⁺˚*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*˚⁺‧͙⁺˚*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*🕸
┊❥ Body Age: 20 years old
┊❥ Pronouns: They/Them
┊❥ System Type: Doesn’t matter to you.
┊❥ Discovered March 2020
┊❥ Diagnosed DID November 2023
┊❥ Body is a POC
┊❥ Simply Plural: StarpletSys
☆─── ⋰⋆⁺❇︎⁺⋆⋱ ─── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── ⋰⋆⁺❇︎⁺⋆⋱ ───☆
♡‧̍̊·̊‧̥°̩̥‧̥·̊‧̍̊ ♡¸.·✩·.¸¸.·¯⍣✩ 𝓓𝓸 𝓝𝓸𝓽 𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓬𝓽 ✩⍣¯·.¸¸.·✩·.¸♡‧̍̊·̊‧̥°̩̥‧̥·̊‧̍̊ ♡
┊❥ Really, we don’t care too much who interacts at this point. I think by this point we have our views on things pretty clear. Just don’t be a dick.
┊❥ Worth mentioning: we are pro-endogenic. We don’t care what you think. If you’re anti-endogenic you can interact, but I figure you’d probably not want to having said what I just said.
┊❥ Basically, if we make you uncomfortable, just don’t interact. Easy as.
☆─── ⋰⋆⁺❇︎⁺⋆⋱ ─── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── ⋰⋆⁺❇︎⁺⋆⋱ ───☆
*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*──・┆✦ʚ♡ɞ✦ ┆・─ 𝓑𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓭𝓪𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 ─・┆✦ʚ♡ɞ✦ ┆・ ──*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*
┊❥ No Roleplay
┊❥ Don’t start drama
┊❥ We don’t care if you think we’re faking, we have better things to do than defend our diagnosis. This is our life, deal with it.
☆── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ─── ↻ ◁ II ▷ ↺ ─── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ.･ ──☆
♡·.·´¯`·.·☆⋆✧˚₊‧⋆.·.·´¯`·.·★ 𝓜𝓮𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓼 ★·.·´¯`·.·.⋆✧˚₊‧⋆☆·.·´¯`·.·♡
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┊❥ Kara
┊❥ 25
┊❥ xe/xer
┊❥ Little sister vibes
┊❥ Birthday: 4/10
┊❥ Taylor
┊❥ 23
┊❥ she/her
┊❥ Big sister vibes
┊❥ Birthday: 11/2
No one else will be listed unless we are comfortable sharing. [5/4/24]
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•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙──・┆✦ʚ♡ɞ✦ ┆・─ 𝓤𝓼𝓮𝓻𝓫𝓸𝔁𝓮𝓼 ─・┆✦ʚ♡ɞ✦ ┆・ ──•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙
Me, taking to my mom who had a bachelors in psychology about DID, without telling her we have been diagnosed with DID:
ALTMe: man… I’m faking being a system. It’s all my inner monologue.
Also Me: *can’t control that one headmate who’s thinking the same sentence over and over and over again*
My system:
[ID:// drawn gray guy with an almost neutral face except for the eyebrows pointed down to make an angry face. //End ID]
Wait until you all learn about Dr Jamie Marich
I'm shocked they haven't been brought up yet by pro endos
Anti endos are going to lose their minds in the worst way
For those too lazy to Google, here's the answer
She's a well known trauma specialist with DID that supports endogenic systems
I am not an enemy the antis want to make
I'm stubborn and petty and there's a lot of sources I have that pro/endos would pay actual money for
How do I live with that?
Dissociation. I just don't think about those articles.
But they continue to exist on the fringes of my mind
do you reccomend any particular place where we can get our hands on her books because we'd really like to read up on what she says
- 🦑
Dissociation Made Simple is a surprisingly cheap book to get online if you want to buy to download (I saw it for $13 US), and of course I highly encourage purchasing and supporting her. It's genuinely a good book.
That said, while trying to get the quote I used, I found this. It's basically the entire book in one wall of text, no download needed. From what I can tell, it's apparently safe to use, but someone more versed in magical technology would need to confirm if downloads are okay.
I’ve known about Dr. Jamie Marich for a while now! I love her work to death and she is amazing at her job. I read their book and I highly recommend it to anyone, not just those who have OSDDID, any system and anyone who struggled with dissociation. They are really good.
(I’m not tagging this syscourse because Jamie+ is a great resource for systems.)
Reblog if you like cats or if you want to. scroll if you feel like it I don’t give a shit lol
Something dawned on me recently, after being in therapy and switching almost visibly in front of my therapist. I need to be honest, I realized I’m ashamed and embarrassed for anyone to see my DID. That’s a vulnerability I don’t want anyone to see, I don’t even want my fiance to see that. There’s something deeply unsafe and painful about it, even if I know they’re a safe person. I don’t want to let anyone into my world like that. It feels terrible to even try to. It’s a lot different talking about it and posting about it on the internet vs someone really actually seeing it and hearing it. To have someone in your system reach out to your therapist after to apologize feels violating, even if it really isn’t. It makes the fact I actually have this disorder incredibly more real. It’s something I don’t want to be real. It feels like I’m losing control of everything in my life, or maybe it’s making me realize I never had the control in the first place. For the amount of positivity I want to spread and the amount of activism for the plural community I want to fight for, there is always a piece of me that just wishes I never had to deal with any of this. It’s genuinely something I am embarrassed and ashamed of. It’s something that makes me feel like I’m a fraud, even if it’s proof of the opposite. Not a day goes by that I don’t wish I was normal like everyone else. I don’t feel special, I feel broken and it sucks. It’s not fair. I shouldn’t have to feel ashamed of all of it, but I am. I’m upset and afraid of anyone seeing it. I’m afraid of sharing my reality on here as well, but I’m at a point where I am about to snap.
It feels terrible to share anything vulnerable like this or to actually have DID. However, I need to be seen and heard on this. None of this is to be a doomer or to tell anyone else they have to be like me, but it’s to let you into my reality and my thoughts about all of this. It’s not pretty, and it’s a reality I have to share. Thanks lol
once again apologize for saying no syscourse and then discussing it here... but i find it interesting that with SAS' breakthrough in endogenic plurality, anti endos are suddenly becoming what they think endos have always been.
they asked for proof, we give it to them, then they completely ignore it. they hide any genuine proof from their blogs & just pretend there's nothing there that supports endogenic plurality.
Once again, I am going to point out that when you are offered corrections with sources, and you hide those sources, you are now purposefully spreading misinformation.
What's that? Louder?
Genuine question because I'd love to read it: what is this source? I'm not familiar with what SAS means. Do you have a link or article name? Thanks!
I think it’s talking about SAS’ talking to others. There was one about Collin Ross, There was another about Lemonsystemmm, but I don’t know if they blocked SAS over it. And then there’s the whole thing with Antiendovents. All sources are in the comments and whatnot, otherwise you can deep dive into SAS’ blog and find others there
(The thing about Collin Ross)
(The thing about Lemonsystemmm)
(The antiendovents thing that there’s more about, it’s a whole thing)
Oh? Change and a better world? Fighting against stigma?
You might want to tell some of the other people in your tag that because they're writing stuff like this:
That doesn't seem like fighting against stigma to me.
That seems like the opposite.
Anyway, back to this blog...
"All DIDOSDD and traumagenic systems are welcome here."
"Unless you're mixed origin or use labels I don't like or support endogenic systems or non-disordered systems. Then you're not allowed."
You notice the subtle trick they're using here, right?
The othering of pro-endo traumagenic and CDD systems who don't agree with them. Because if they support all traumagenic and DIDOSDD systems, and exclude supporters of non-traumagenic systems, then it implies those supporters aren't real systems.
While this, to be fair, is part of their personal boundary and not the systempunk definition, this is very much exactly what anti-endos wanted the systempunk tag to be. A place to spread hate that excluded any systems with beliefs that were too abnormal or individualistic for them.
Pluralpunk was too radically inclusive and accepting, so the anti-endos wanted a place to go where they could still pretend to be punk without dealing with all the systems who were too different for them from their idea of the medical model of systemhood.
If you have such a fucking problem with people wanting a tag where they can find real systems to connect with and talk to then you have the option to block the fucking tag. Many of the people using that tag have been blocking or avoiding endo, pluarl, and pluarlpunk tags so you have another fucking option to go where you want. Seeing the entitled people trying to refuse dissociative systems even just one tag to let us connect with other dissociative systems has really pissed me off. At this point I say it too, fuck endos. Once upon a time we wanted to try to have open dialoge to correct misinformation in a polite and respectful place but its clear that over all the endo community and its supporters do not care to actually hear what being a system is.
Religion does not make a system, there are terms from the culture of that religion to describe 'spiritual systems'.
Alters without the disorder doesn't exist because alters aren't a stand alone symptom of dissociative disorders it is extreme dissociation so alters can not exist outside of severe dissociative disorders.
The term system is a medical term referring to a system of dissociative states.
The term system is a medical term referring to a system of dissociative states.
No it isn't.
"System" has a pretty broad application in psychiatry and psychology. Even specifically in regards to parts of a personality.
See Internal Family Systems therapy for example.
There is NO medical definition that defines system as exclusive to people with CDDs, and it has been a shared community term since the 90s.
And now that endogenic and non-disordered systems are being studied, guess what word actual medical professionals are using?
Also, keep in mind that a popular view by some psychologists is that possessing spirits ARE "dissociative states."
This paper, for instance, discusses the possibility of spirits communicated with by mediums being self-conscious "dissociative parts of the personality."
So even your made-up definition of system would still be applicable.
As for your issues with me posting in the systempunk tag, I've watched for months while anti-endos have invaded intentionally inclusive spaces and tags. I've watched anti-endos brigade the pluragang tags. I've watched them try to push us out of the alterhuman community. I've watched people try to kindly ask anti-endos to not post in these inclusive spaces, and they've dug in their heels.
And before you way it doesn't happen, here are the anti-endos crosstagging anti-endo posts into the inclusive pluralgang tag.
For a long time, I used to avoid posting in anti-endo tags. But I don't actually care to let a hate group have their spaces anymore.
Actions have consequences.
They're really gonna just breeze past the whole "and their supporters" part of that yeah? Straight the fuck up, these ripped jeans buying assholes don't give a shit about CDD having mother fuckers. They give a shit about other hate filled pricks. Just turns out that it's a niche enough hate that they can hide behind a doctor prescribed label.
This shits so reminiscent of LGB shitheads.
This is funny. They don’t care and they don’t want to care. Very reminisect of the LGB folks
the big thing that gets me abt syscourse is that it’s literally none of your business. why do you need to know if a stranger on the internet has trauma. why do you need to know the medical history of a stranger on the internet. did you never learn basic internet safety? what makes you think you’re entitled to that information about a person.
[read the post a few more times before trying to start shit, okay?]
