A new document of endogenic plurality is being made, by the guradians system
Go check it out, it has a lot of resources and studies, it’s very interesting.
Me, taking to my mom who had a bachelors in psychology about DID, without telling her we have been diagnosed with DID:
ALT
Reblog if you like cats or if you want to. scroll if you feel like it I don’t give a shit lol
Wait until you all learn about Dr Jamie Marich
I'm shocked they haven't been brought up yet by pro endos
Anti endos are going to lose their minds in the worst way
For those too lazy to Google, here's the answer
She's a well known trauma specialist with DID that supports endogenic systems
I am not an enemy the antis want to make
I'm stubborn and petty and there's a lot of sources I have that pro/endos would pay actual money for
How do I live with that?
Dissociation. I just don't think about those articles.
But they continue to exist on the fringes of my mind
do you reccomend any particular place where we can get our hands on her books because we'd really like to read up on what she says
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Dissociation Made Simple is a surprisingly cheap book to get online if you want to buy to download (I saw it for $13 US), and of course I highly encourage purchasing and supporting her. It's genuinely a good book.
That said, while trying to get the quote I used, I found this. It's basically the entire book in one wall of text, no download needed. From what I can tell, it's apparently safe to use, but someone more versed in magical technology would need to confirm if downloads are okay.
I’ve known about Dr. Jamie Marich for a while now! I love her work to death and she is amazing at her job. I read their book and I highly recommend it to anyone, not just those who have OSDDID, any system and anyone who struggled with dissociation. They are really good.
(I’m not tagging this syscourse because Jamie+ is a great resource for systems.)
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┊❥ Body Age: 20 years old
┊❥ Pronouns: They/Them
┊❥ System Type: Doesn’t matter to you.
┊❥ Discovered March 2020
┊❥ Diagnosed DID November 2023
┊❥ Body is a POC
┊❥ Simply Plural: StarpletSys
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♡‧̍̊·̊‧̥°̩̥‧̥·̊‧̍̊ ♡¸.·✩·.¸¸.·¯⍣✩ 𝓓𝓸 𝓝𝓸𝓽 𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓬𝓽 ✩⍣¯·.¸¸.·✩·.¸♡‧̍̊·̊‧̥°̩̥‧̥·̊‧̍̊ ♡
┊❥ Really, we don’t care too much who interacts at this point. I think by this point we have our views on things pretty clear. Just don’t be a dick.
┊❥ Worth mentioning: we are pro-endogenic. We don’t care what you think. If you’re anti-endogenic you can interact, but I figure you’d probably not want to having said what I just said.
┊❥ Basically, if we make you uncomfortable, just don’t interact. Easy as.
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*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*──・┆✦ʚ♡ɞ✦ ┆・─ 𝓑𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓭𝓪𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 ─・┆✦ʚ♡ɞ✦ ┆・ ──*•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙*
┊❥ No Roleplay
┊❥ Don’t start drama
┊❥ We don’t care if you think we’re faking, we have better things to do than defend our diagnosis. This is our life, deal with it.
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┊❥ Kara
┊❥ 25
┊❥ xe/xer
┊❥ Little sister vibes
┊❥ Birthday: 4/10
┊❥ Taylor
┊❥ 23
┊❥ she/her
┊❥ Big sister vibes
┊❥ Birthday: 11/2
No one else will be listed unless we are comfortable sharing. [5/4/24]
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Something dawned on me recently, after being in therapy and switching almost visibly in front of my therapist. I need to be honest, I realized I’m ashamed and embarrassed for anyone to see my DID. That’s a vulnerability I don’t want anyone to see, I don’t even want my fiance to see that. There’s something deeply unsafe and painful about it, even if I know they’re a safe person. I don’t want to let anyone into my world like that. It feels terrible to even try to. It’s a lot different talking about it and posting about it on the internet vs someone really actually seeing it and hearing it. To have someone in your system reach out to your therapist after to apologize feels violating, even if it really isn’t. It makes the fact I actually have this disorder incredibly more real. It’s something I don’t want to be real. It feels like I’m losing control of everything in my life, or maybe it’s making me realize I never had the control in the first place. For the amount of positivity I want to spread and the amount of activism for the plural community I want to fight for, there is always a piece of me that just wishes I never had to deal with any of this. It’s genuinely something I am embarrassed and ashamed of. It’s something that makes me feel like I’m a fraud, even if it’s proof of the opposite. Not a day goes by that I don’t wish I was normal like everyone else. I don’t feel special, I feel broken and it sucks. It’s not fair. I shouldn’t have to feel ashamed of all of it, but I am. I’m upset and afraid of anyone seeing it. I’m afraid of sharing my reality on here as well, but I’m at a point where I am about to snap.
It feels terrible to share anything vulnerable like this or to actually have DID. However, I need to be seen and heard on this. None of this is to be a doomer or to tell anyone else they have to be like me, but it’s to let you into my reality and my thoughts about all of this. It’s not pretty, and it’s a reality I have to share. Thanks lol
Me: man… I’m faking being a system. It’s all my inner monologue.
Also Me: *can’t control that one headmate who’s thinking the same sentence over and over and over again*
My system:
[ID:// drawn gray guy with an almost neutral face except for the eyebrows pointed down to make an angry face. //End ID]
Actually, I’m gonna take this moment to post something nice in the syscourse and plural tags, which I think has become a lost art as of late. A reminder to take care of yourself and not let those acting in bad faith take over your mind.
Remember, lost traveler… do not feed the trolls.
I’ve seen some art with the line “the future is plural!”
I hope it isn’t.
More systems means more abused kids.
Fine, I’ll bite. First, I would like to say that your art is very lovely and I’m glad I’ve gotten to see it.
This goes back to what I reblogged earlier, which I doubt y’all would see since it’s a pro-endo post. Nobody is asking for there to be more abused kids. If they are, they probably aren’t speaking in good faith on this argument or they have something else they need to work through.
Let’s say that we know, 100% for a fact, the only way to be a system is through trauma. There is still use for you in that phrase. The point of “the future is plural” is not what it says on the tin, as you’ve shown. We’re not asking for there to be more systems, if we’re thinking strictly in your terms. We’re asking for it to be believed; for it to be taken seriously. We want it to be normalized in the way where if someone says “hey I’m plural” we believe them. We want there to be more understanding and less hate. We want to ensure that those ahead of us don’t have to face what we have, and that what those before us have done was not in vain.
You know why it’s not okay for clinicians to abuse their patients with DID? It’s not because they woke up one day and decided “maybe we shouldn’t be treating our patients like this.” It’s because activists before us did their job. Back in the ‘80s there were so many fucked up practices being done to those with DID, named MPD at that time. Which I must include because it is pertinent to the history of our disorder. Law suits have been brought to court and have been won over these practices. Now, while we are quite a bit better in terms of clinicians that specialize in DID, we aren’t in terms of the general population. They may still believe we are voilent and scary. They may still believe that it’s not a real disorder. They may still believe that it’s just like what they see on TV. Which, as everyone here knows, it isn’t.
We want to make sure they understand that we are humans, too. While we may be many, we aren’t terrible or lying or any number of things others who have no experience with DID think. We, as a community, deserve better. We deserve to be believed. We deserve to be treated with respect and dignity.
And so, I bring it back to one of my first points. Even if we were arguing for there to be more systems, it’s not in the way you desperately want to believe. It’s not begging for more traumatized children. It’s not through pain and suffering. Its a call for pride on all sides. It’s also recognition of the systems that just happen, it’s to celebrate the beauty of those who found their plurality and aren’t traumatized like you or I. You can believe that systems and dissociation ONLY form from trauma, but you wouldn’t be right. To the end where even Dr. Collin A. Ross, one of, if not THE leading researcher in the field, outright states that there are those out there who have been diagnosed with DID and who struggle with dissociation who have no trauma history. He himself has said that there are even people who are multiple that would not fit the criteria or don’t have the difficulty that those with DID must to experience for it to be the disorder it is. (Thanks @sysmedsaresexist!)
If you won’t listen to those who experience endogenic plurality, if you won’t listen to those who have done research and have still come to this conclusion, if you won’t listen to those leading in the field of trauma and dissociation, then who will you listen to? How will you be able to make sure you’re not spreading the same misinformation and hate that the phrase “The future is plural” is a desperate plea to combat? How are you better than the endogenic systems you want to demonize so badly?
ALTDon’t give up! Keep going! Keep vibing! Keep learning and growing together! Keep exploring your plurality and living your authentic lives as systems! ALL systems belong in the plural community! ALL systems deserve to be supported and uplifted!
(And yes this means you, endogenic systems, questioning systems, mixed origins systems, xeno origins systems, and systems who don’t use any labels at all! And you, traumatized systems who don’t perfectly fit the mold of DID/OSDD! And you, systems with unique ways of living and presenting your plurality! We love you we love you we love you!!!)
I want to do my best to support other systems. I am trying 💜💜
the big thing that gets me abt syscourse is that it’s literally none of your business. why do you need to know if a stranger on the internet has trauma. why do you need to know the medical history of a stranger on the internet. did you never learn basic internet safety? what makes you think you’re entitled to that information about a person.
[read the post a few more times before trying to start shit, okay?]
