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MEETING: Attribution Reporting API calls #80

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csharrison opened this issue Nov 5, 2020 · 136 comments
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MEETING: Attribution Reporting API calls #80

csharrison opened this issue Nov 5, 2020 · 136 comments
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csharrison commented Nov 5, 2020

Next meeting details:
Call-in link: https://meet.google.com/jnn-rhxv-nsy
Notes / Queue / Agenda doc. Comment on the agenda to add items
Date: Every other Monday, from 8-9am PT

Join the Google group here to get added automatically to the Google Meet.

If you want to participate in the call, please make sure you join the WICG:
https://www.w3.org/community/wicg/

Minutes are posted here


At TPAC there was some consensus that folks would like more time to discuss this API through the WICG. Let's use this issue for scheduling and planning. I was planning on using the same basic technology to host the meeting (Google Meet), with a shared Google doc for queuing and note taking.

Possible time slots (in GMT) for a recurring / semi-recurring 30-60 minute meeting:

  • Monday: 3-3:30pm, 4-6pm, 8-9pm
  • Tuesday: 3-3:30pm, 6:30-7:30pm, 10:30-11pm
  • Thursday: 7:30-8:30pm

Unfortunately the list of interested people was not captured in the TPAC notes, so feel free to cc folks that you think would be interested. We can use this issue to align on a time slot, duration, etc.
@benjaminsavage, @kdeqc, @ajknox, @johnivdel, @michaelkleber, @johnwilander, @maudnals, @dialtone, @BasileLeparmentier, @bslassey, @erik-anderson

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This is a good idea. I can generally free up any of the time slots listed above.

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johnwilander commented Nov 5, 2020

I am interested in general but I'm wondering if this API has multi implementer interest? If so, which? Knowing that feels like an important basis for discussion, i.e. are we discussing something that is on track to become a proposed standard or are we discussing a single browser/engine specification?

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Thanks John. I don't think we have any public statements of interest yet from other browser vendors but as this proposal is still in incubation that should be fine (the WICG charter does not require multi-browser support). We're also still iterating through lots of new ideas in this space that are at early stages like the aggregate conversion measurement, which you seemed to express some interest in exploring (e.g. some Prio-like solution) at the privacy CG F2F (minutes).

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Sure, I'm not saying you're in any bad state or shouldn't incubate. 🙂 I just want to know what I'd be signing up for. I'd prefer it if we could isolate issues that are relevant for both Conversion Measurement API and Private Click Measurement. Would that be possible?

@csharrison
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I don't want to limit the discussions in these meetings to just issues relevant to PCM, but I think we could certainly have meetings where that's the primary agenda topic.

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I don't want to limit the discussions in these meetings to just issues relevant to PCM, but I think we could certainly have meetings where that's the primary agenda topic.

Sounds good. Please ping me for those meetings.

@erik-anderson
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Monday 8-9pm GMT and Tuesday 6:30-7pm GMT would work best for me. Thanks!

@gendlermax
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Hi Charlie, thanks for highlighting this group in web-adv.
I'd be available at any of these times. Looking forward to participating!

@benjaminsavage
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I can do Monday 3-4 GMT, Tuesday 3:00-3:30, or Tuesday 10:30-11:00

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dialtone commented Nov 12, 2020 via email

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Between @bedfordsean, @ajknox, and myself, we can make
Mon: 3-3:30pm and 4-6pm GMT (8-9pm GMT, 2/3 of us)
Tue: 3-3:30pm GMT

Thanks for organizing @csharrison!

@BasileLeparmentier
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Hi Charlie,

Thank you so much for organizing this.

We are available for all the proposed schedule before 6pm GMT, after it is not possible for us, based in Paris, it would be too late.

Thanks again,
Basile

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I would be happy to participate in this conversation (though this isn't an explicit implementer interest/intent to implement from Mozilla). I can do all of the suggested timeslots though the Tuesday ones are slightly more inconvenient for me.

Thanks!

@csharrison
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Thanks everyone. It looks like we can meet the most schedules on Monday from 4-5pm GMT. Given that next week is the week of American Thanksgiving, I propose we first meet on Nov 30, from 4-5pm GMT, although if there are strong objections let me know.

We can use this issue for agenda curation in the meantime.

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Thanks @csharrison for organizing! To clarify, from Nov 30 onward, do you intend to week weekly, or every 2 weeks (or some other cadence)?

@csharrison
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Great question. I think we can stick with every 2 weeks unless it seems like we have a lot of material to get through and folks want to meet more often.

@csharrison
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I added a link to a Google Meet in the issue description, along with a Google doc with a tentative agenda (@johnwilander there may be some topics of interest to you).

Feel free to use this issue to suggest further agenda items.

@csharrison
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Let's schedule the next meeting for Monday, Dec 14 at 4-5pm GMT. I'll create a new notes / agenda doc closer to the call and provide meeting details.

As always, feel free to use this issue to propose agenda items.

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dialtone commented Dec 4, 2020

Awesome. Since we'll have talked about our new spec https://github.com/AdRoll/privacy/blob/main/SPURFOWL.md in the next w3c meeting I wonder if it would be possible to talk about that within this group.

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ajknox commented Dec 8, 2020

@csharrison, can you update in this issue to include links to call in details, times, and where minutes are posted? I think this is most discoverable way for new people to join this topic

@csharrison
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Updated the issue to provide the call-in details, links to past minutes, and an agenda doc for the next meeting.

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Scheduling the next call for Jan 11, since I will be mostly out of office till that Monday. Enjoy the holidays everyone! 🎉

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This coming Monday @johnivdel will present a new document we published on event-level VTC:
https://github.com/WICG/conversion-measurement-api/blob/main/event_attribution_reporting.md

If we have time we can also discuss a new proposal for cross device:
https://github.com/WICG/conversion-measurement-api/blob/main/cross_device.md

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Just updated the call to clarify that we're now meeting at 3pm GMT, to accommodate the time zone changes that happened a while back. Let me know if this is an issue for anyone, though we have been at this schedule accidentally for the last couple meetings (my apologies)!

@BasileLeparmentier
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Hi Charlie,

Could I talk today (probably quickly) about the ML challenge that we are launching, described here #137 ?

Best,
Basile

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Yep sounds good.

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Given that the 31st is Memorial Day I propose we cancel next week's meeting. At least all the Google folks (including myself) have the day off.

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Hey @csharrison two minor questions based on above:

  • will the meeting this coming monday the 21 be held regularly?
  • I think the doc link is still for the last meeting with the notes and such, I would like to discuss some multi-touch stuff and will add when the doc is updated, but putting this here to say "please don't cancel :) "

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Hey @thegreatfatzby , yes the meeting this coming Monday is still on. Sorry I still need to clean up the doc from the last meeting. I'll do so right now and add your topic!

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@csharrison thanks fwend!

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Note: Given labor day and TPAC (where we requested a working session for ARA), let's cancel next week's meeting.

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dmdabbs commented Aug 30, 2023

@csharrison you're referring to a PAT-CG session at TPAC?

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@dmdabbs no, I have requested a dedicated ARA session: WICG/admin#181

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csharrison commented Sep 12, 2023

Reminder: we are meeting at TPAC today at 14:30 CEST
https://everytimezone.com/?t=64ffaa00,2ee

Here are the slides I will be presenting.

Meeting details different from usual, we will use the zoom details here:
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/91254a8b-5e32-45af-8af5-969b877b6eb1/

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Our next (regularly scheduled) meeting is tomorrow, Sep 18, but there aren't currently any agenda items. Please propose something if there is anything you'd like to discuss.

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Ditto for this week. Please let me know if you have any agenda items. I think the only recent progress has been on #765 (modulus compat issue with flexible configs) with PR #1044. But this is pretty minor, so I'm not sure it warrants F2F.

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OK let's cancel the Oct 2 meeting this morning.

@csharrison
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Note: our meeting tomorrow (Oct 16) is on!

Agenda

  • Plug: There is a PAM one-off meeting Oct 19.
  • Isaac: if nothing else is on the agenda it might be helpful for me to get to talk through 974 a bit.
  • Charlie: PAM / ARA possible interop mode (also related to 974). May require other changes
  • Charlie: Feedback on 1067 from an anti-spam POV

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Agenda for next week:
[Chandan Giri]: Google Ads feedback on #974
[Charlie]: #1095
[Anthony Garant]: #1103 and #1107

Let me know if there's something you want to add to this.

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We don't have an agenda for tomorrow's meeting, so planning on canceling unless there are objections.

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Hey everyone, this will be our last meeting of 2023! On the agenda are two short presentations about recent papers we published:

  1. A blog post / paper about optimizing summary reports: https://blog.research.google/2023/12/summary-report-optimization-in-privacy.html
  2. An improved algorithm for label DP: https://openreview.net/forum?id=aG6xOP9QY7

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Welcome back from the holidays! We don't have any major agenda items so I will be canceling the meeting today. Hoping to have a topic or two for next time as we ramp up into the new year.

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Not too much to report this week, so we don't have many topics. On our end we are still figuring out the best approach to land the full flex functionality so it is mostly figuring out technical details.

Please propose any other topics here or in the minutes doc if folks want to meet.

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Hi All, agenda for next week:
[Akash]: Phase 2 Full Flexible Event Level Feedback
[Akash]: Aggregate Debug Proposal - Null Reports Feedback #705

Let me know if there's something you want to add to this.

@csharrison
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Thanks for the meeting today. Given that our next scheduled meeting is a US Holiday, let's plan to skip and resume back on March 4.

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Today @akashnadan will present on post-3PCD debugging. Slides are posted here: https://github.com/WICG/attribution-reporting-api/blob/main/meetings/2024-03-04/post-3pcd-debugging-proposals.pdf

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There is currently no agenda for today's meeting. I propose we cancel and meet again on April 1st unless there are any objections.

@johnivdel
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There are currently some issues with access on the notes doc, for todays meeting on 4/1 let's use this notes doc:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HO5Kh8UwnZb2zIP_bIKnRadnZzmyxxnAooUWUcNetQo/edit?usp=sharing

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Hey folks, we currently have no items on the agenda for todays meeting. I propose cancelling and reconvening on April 29th.

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johnivdel commented Apr 29, 2024

Hey folks, we currently have nothing on the agenda for todays meeting, so I suggest we cancel and meet next on May 12th.

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Hey folks, sorry for the late notice, we don't have any agenda for today's meeting, so let's cancel and meet again on June 3rd given May 27th is a holiday in the US.

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dmdabbs commented May 13, 2024

So will you continue bi-weekly from 3 June or resume the prior schedule on 10 June?

@johnivdel
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Apologies, we have no agenda for this week. So let's resume the normal schedule on June 10th. Sorry for the late notice and confusion!

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