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Things to change and mistakes
Hello, I realized after submitting: I'd like to make the topic title in italics (I just saw how) as well I would like to inquire further about including a historical picture that I would run by with the experienced editors of copyright knowledge per the inclusion of pictures. I think it would add a lot to the article. As well in the source editing I'm just now noticing that the reference to the significance of Ipiranga isn't the URL citation I'd intended to include. I had intended on linking a different reference for that information. I'd copied the wrong URL from my tabs because I wasn't paying attention. If the article passes I'd like to make these changes, but in any case, I'm aware of them and what needs to / what I would like to change. WindowColorCenter (talk) 03:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note for Afc reviewers: based on this Tea house discussion, I'm pretty sure WCC means "withdrawing the submission" but they are still actively working on it in order to bring it to a point where it might pass review. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 05:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mathglot, I am hoping to still improve this article. I think that a lot of the article where I intended to correct has been corrected formatting and "Wiki"-styling wise. As much as I'd like to add more history I am afraid that most of the history of this specific ship has one page of historical information to pull from and I'm having a lot of trouble finding more. There is a page for it on the Portuguese Wikipedia however it is deficient in sources to an even lesser extent. What do you think? I've been inquiring about an image. If not on the right track here with how to improve, what else might you suggest? Thank you so much for engaging and helping me! WindowColorCenter (talk) 00:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WindowColorCenter, glad to hear that. If you are having trouble finding more sources, then it might be one of those types of articles which have sufficient independent sources with significant coverage to establish notability, but with insufficient depth of coverage to ever develop into anything more than a stub article. In that case, WP:PAGEDECIDE applies, and it may be better to keep the content you wrote, but not in its own article as it is now; rather, you should find a related article (or create one) on a broader topic that can contain your content and content about similar topics at the same time.
For example, currently there is no article about Brazilian shipwrecks, but you could write one, including the Ipiranga, but also other wrecks as well. This would probably give you enough content for a standalone article. You could decide to create what is called a List article, or fold your material into an existing list article such as List of shipwrecks in the Atlantic Ocean. But if you look at that one, the topic is almost too broad, and each wreck gets only a sentence or so in the table, so most of your material would be lost. You could make a smaller list article with more limited scope so there would be fewer items, but each item could have a paragraph or so; so you could create List of Brazilian shipwrecks, somewhat on the model of List of Brazilian Highways or List of criminal gangs in Brazil.
Of course, with a broader topic like that, that means that when you finish the part about Ipiranga, you're not done with the whole article or list—just with that one part of it; you would need to expand it with content about other list items (or wait for someone else to). On the plus side, it would be a larger contribution to Wikipedia, and might induce other editors to take part, and expand the article or list with more stuff than you were aware of.
I would say at this point you have a choice between finding more sources about Ipiranga of the type you haven't been able to find so far and expanding the article under its current name, or broadening the article topic or making it into a list article, and expandiing it with related information about other shipwrecks. Does any of this give you some idea about how you would like to continue? Mathglot (talk) 02:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
