seananmcguire:
This is a very “what’s your angle” question. No one is the boss of folklore and mythology; there’s something to be said for treating any tradition that isn’t your own with respect, and never making someone else’s gods your monsters. That said, if you want to create a fantasy world where “selkie” is a catch-all term for any sort of pinniped that can turn into a human, go for it. No one gets to stop you.
According to actual folklore as we understand it? No. You’re not going to find a traditional Celtic story where a walrus takes off their skin and is a hot chick underneath. By that standard, calling a shape-shifting walrus a selkie is inaccurate and I wouldn’t do it, personally.
Either way, if you’re trying to preserve something of the classic selkie story, they aren’t big tricksters most of the time. I’d avoid it. But it’s your call.
A moment ago, I reblogged this straightforward without commentary because it is complete.
And
I like to talk
And have ten twenty minutes.
And I come across this exact line of questioning a lot.
Like. A lot.
It is a line of thought I think about regularly and discuss extremely frequently and therefore have lots of thoughts about it.
So to add, if I may
“October” exists in our world – currently, and in many calendars – due to a very specific set of circumstances that do not exist in Middle Earth, and it was woven into the Fellowship of the Ring:
Gandalf to Frodo: “You are in the House of Elrond and it is ten o'clock in the morning on October the 24th, if you want to know.”
Either because
A parallel, equal, but entirely separate, set of circumstances created the word “October” and aligned it with a specific month in Middle Earth
Or
Because the folklore method of bringing-alien-to-our-world-tale-into-our-world said:
“Hm. This happened within a compatible time frame and to translate this point most efficiently, we’re using ‘October’ as the word. It denotes the necessary connotation.”
Or
You, the consumer of media, simply accept it without review. This is similar to the second point but less sticky.
The second point involves a specific “this story is a story of another world, brought to ours.” This point is straightforward: it’s a story, no explanation needed. Very common!
Now the gooey parts. All of the following things are true:
- You do not have a legal obligation to be historically accurate in your monsters that are in the public domain. You cannot be sued because you create a walrus-based selkie. Or an elf that hates the forest. Or a monster within a culture you are not a part of. Or a mermaid that has leg bones instead of sorry sorry sorry getting off track. The key part here is legal obligation. (I suppose you can be sued, as in a case could be opened against you, but monster types are very unlikely to be legally protected. Especially in non-large scale work.)
- I would personally argue you have a social obligation to avoid this (key words here are “personally argue” because I do not specifically enjoy creating chaos, trouble, hurt feelings, and negativity.)
- If you purposefully utilize traditional monsters in non-traditional ways, especially outside of a culture you do not belong to, there are some folks who are going to be upset. A significant portion of people who agree about this are going to agree with them.
- If you do this this without realizing, you are likely going to have the same result. Corrective action, if you choose, may fix this. It may not! The emotions and viewpoints of others are theres to shift, or not. Thems be life’s bones.
- You (probably) cannot be sued, but you can have the typical non-legal negative response spectrum (lots of people negatively reviewing, boycott your other work, this piece simply not being consumed… etc.)
- This is a common risk in mythology work. Thems be myth’s bones.
- Whatever you do, someone is going to get upset somewhere. Some people do not like any work about monsters existing. Thems be the crossbones of life and myth.
- Taking #7 as a license to do whatever you want regardless of the consequences is not advice I am offering. It is a recognition that when you deal with monsters, at least some portion of the populace is going to say “I don’t like that” and react.
- Which is true of… everything, really. I digress.
“Wow Atticus mythology seems super hard and requires delicate care to handle, significant research, and thoughtful inclusions or exclusions or modifications, in all work, always, in every medium, forever, regardless of subject matter, environment, publishing method, and ten billion other circumstances.”
Yes.
Thank you very carefully worded sentence that will never be said but I would cry happily over, for like, five minutes, if it was ever said by people I write myths for.
“Okay so what do I do?”
You have a few basic choices.
- You can say “to hell with you, generally accepted connotations, I’m going to do what I want” and do what you want and possibly suffer the negative feedback. Not to my personal taste, but see above, you could do this.
- You can dig deep into mythology that have walruses and find ways of incorporating that into your story. You still run the risk of cultural insensitivity, so this is a complex option. I would start here, but it is not what I would recommend in terms of finishing.
- You can adapt non-cultural monsters. “Shapeshifter” is a neutral term. You don’t have to end with “shapeshifter” if it is too generic. You can adapt it. This pairs well with #2.
- You can create a monster out of the air, with their own species name, etc. This is more involved, but has more depths in options to create, and will require you explaining what it is since you invented it. This is a more advanced #3, and similarly pairs well with #2.
Monsters.
:)
Hard work.
But fun!
But far more difficult than it seems on the surface.