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Request for an es.admin account

I need to have an admin account on es.wikipedia to make update from the external search engine bar. There is a javascript error like this "Erreur : mySibling is null Fichier Source : http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:SpecialSearch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript Ligne : 36" Pmartin 10:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Not done. Please add a request on the relevant page on es.wikipedia.org. They have lots of local sysops who'll be able to fix the error. guillom 10:37, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I hope that you contact one of them to solve the problem, because my english is not very good and my spanish is very bad Pmartin 13:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Some Spanish speaking people even do understand English, I heard, *summoning Dferg* Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 14:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I think the better way it s to make what MikeLifeguard suggest to me the last time. I spend a lot of time , and steewart also with this problem Pmartin 15:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

(outdent, comenting per request) Well, if I can do something, I'm an eswiki sysop and I can speak a bit of English and French... Thanks, df|  19:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


Demmy@yowiki

I'm requesting renewal to my temporary adminship. I am currently the sole active administrator on this wiki. Thanks, Demmy 12:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Have any discussion in your local community? Alex Pereira falaê 13:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
No because unfortunately the local community is inactive. This is why I've always renewed directly here. This is the fifth or sixth time I've done this. Thanks Demmy 05:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I reposted because some user Nstm deleted it for some reason. Demmy 12:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Extended for more 3 months, expires 01-12-2009. Please remember to translate the interface at betawiki: only and to upload images preferably to commons:, please come back a few days before the status expires to prolong it or hold a local voting if the community grows, thanks. Alex Pereira falaê 13:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Pavlo Shevelo@ukwiki

This is Not done, as there is no consensus about the removal. Also, if there is an ArbCom on uk.wikipedia, it is preferable that a request about removal of rights comes from the ArbCom. Laaknor 19:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. --Prima klasy4na 19:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

putnik@ruwikinews

putnik 14:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Request refused - not enough voters. Candidate should be supported by local community (at least 3 users), but not only by one person two persons. LeinaD (t) 15:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Done. Request for permanent access has been changed into temporary access on 6 months. Expires 1 March 2010. LeinaD (t) 22:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Str4nd@fiwikiversity

str4nd 14:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how there is consensus to appoint you and Tarmo as sysops. All I see is a number of people willing to become one. --Erwin 15:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
As you can see, those discussions are from 2008. We can vote too if that's necessary. — str4nd 15:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
On hold - on project started voting. LeinaD (t) 15:38, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

done, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Tarmo@fiwikiversity

str4nd 14:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

On hold - on project started voting. LeinaD (t) 15:39, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

done, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

zh.wiki

I want to make Wikipedia's contributions in the zh wiki.don't encounter any destruction. If I work as time the Administrator, Can the management edition, the protection, delete the page and restore the page, And manages all users.--林躍錩 09:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello, zh.wiki has local bureaucrats, ask there please, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 09:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


Si Gam Acèh@acewiki

I request as admin on Acehnese Wikipedia. Si Gam Acèh 10:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Please, use our code tou your request. Thanks. Alex Pereira falaê 11:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Si Gam Acèh 11:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

This link goes to a bureaucrat request, started today. Waiting your community decision. After this, make a new request. Best regards. Alex Pereira falaê 13:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, you need a sysop flag to request a bureaucrat flag. Alex Pereira falaê 13:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Moreover, request for bureaucrat access does not make sense, your community is too small. LeinaD (t) 13:41, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Tempodivalse@simplewiktionary

Hello there! Our only local 'crat started a "wikibreak" on 12 September for about one month. The discussion linked above is with a clear consensus. No opposes. The RfAs run normally for about 2 weeks, sometimes less in clear cases. I request a steward to grant Tempodivalse the admin tool. Thanks Barras 13:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

As I understand it, the user has been emailed, but there has been no response as of yet. I propose to wait a few days and if the bureaucrat does not respond in that time, then we grant the rights. --FiliP ██ 13:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Marked as not done. Crat granted the right. Anyway, thanks for your help. Barras 15:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Teak@hywikisource

Thank you! ― Teak 20:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, status granted for 6 months, expires: 18-03-2010. Regards, LeinaD (t) 21:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

AliErsoy@diqwiki

I request sysop access on diq.wikipedia:

I am a Zazaki-Speaker and want to help to develope this project. I work here since the begin (Test-period, I had the nick "Dersimli, Dêrsımıc") on this project and helped to build a common spelling and developed the portals. Also I writed, opened and edited many articles here.

I'm very educated on Zazaki and it's history and know, what we can do, that more people can visite this page and be active here.

Discussion: http://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portalé_cemaeti/Sysop_Access_Requests#AliErsoy
Status: 2 of 3 Admins voted for "Support", 1 voted for "Oppose" --AliErsoy 20:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to set "on hold" this req. The votation started just 2 days ago and, counting 2 support and 1 oppose, we cannot do anything for now--Nick1915 - all you want 21:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Not done. It's been a week, and I count three in favor (Asmen, Mirsali, Baran Ruciyar) and two against (Aspar, Xosere). I'm afraid that's not a consensus. — Dan | talk 17:38, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

NK45@jawiki

Not done. Enwiki and jawiki have their own procedures concerning adminship. Looking at your contributions I can see you have not been a Wikimedian for long. Typically, one must have some experience before running for adminship. If you wish to be an admin on both projects, you will have edit for awhile more and learn about the rules of both wikis.--Shanel 08:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

NK45@enwiki

Very verv sorry. --NK45 08:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Both these requests are Not done. Both these wikis have local communities that can give you access. Laaknor 08:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
What he said (hmph).--Shanel 08:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Ooswesthoesbes@liwikisource

Again I request (temporary) sysop access at li.wikisource to move and delete some categories. There is no local community. --OosWesThoesBes 08:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, status granted for 3 months (not for 6 months, because you wasn't really active as sysop after your last request), expires: 20-12-2009. Regards, LeinaD (t) 09:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, that's because I've got a lot of wiki's to watch :) Thank you! :) --OosWesThoesBes 09:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

Again I request (temporary) sysop access meta plase PLASE. --NK45 05:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

First off this is not the location you want to ask for meta adminship. If you want to know the policies here you shoud read Meta:Administrators#Policy_for_requesting_adminship. However, given how new you are to the project I would recommend you work for a while on other things before you start thinking about being an admin. Jamesofur 06:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Not done. I fully agree with James. --Erwin 07:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Khalid Mahmood@pnbwiki

I remained an admin on wikimedia incubator for almost a year. I translated some 1000+ common interface messages in Betawiki too. Khalid Mahmood 04:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Done--Nick1915 - all you want 11:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrat access

Ant2387@enwiki

Not done. We don't set bureaucrat flags for enwiki. Thanks --FiliP ██ 11:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


Ant2387@wikiapterous

Not done 1. no discussion link 2. not a wmf-project. Br. --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 14:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

Now there is an active rehabilitation of Wikibooks. For the help of rehabilitation we must have one bureaucrat for assignment of flags (bot's flag), at least. - Iniquity 19:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I feel that 3 votes for bureaucrat is too few votes (with that number, we wouldn't have granted more than temp sysop). Also, with 5 sysops and 5(/6) bots, the bureaucrat wouldn't be overworked, and with a single 'crat, it is a big risk of jobs not beeing done fast enough because that person is on vacation/wikibreak. I believe it would be best for the community to not have a bureaucrat right now... Laaknor 07:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Indeed. This is far from enough votes, so this is Not done. --FiliP ██ 13:43, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Si Gam Acèh@acewiki

Si Gam Acèh 10:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

There are only 3 votes (one of them by a user who has 3 content edits on that wiki). I don't think that the community is yet large enough to need for a bureaucrat. Other opinions? --თოგო (D) 10:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Request was reviewed in this month. I would suggest mark request as refused. LeinaD (t) 12:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
The acewiki don't have sysops, so, i don't see why need a bureaucrat... As leinad says, too I would suggest mark this request as refused. Alex Pereira falaê 13:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Agreeing with others here. Marking as Not done, too few votes/too little community. Laaknor 08:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


CheckUser access

Cirt@enwikinews

Cirt is already identified to the foundation and has received 25 votes in support of him receiving local checkuser. --Skenmy talk 18:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Done & welcome to the team.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 19:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Cirt (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

עידו@hewiki

Passport copy was sent by e-mail. עידו 12:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Awaiting confirmation from the Foundation Office. Redux 22:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. LeinaD (t) 17:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

identification will be sent to the foundation within this hour. --Kulac 07:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. LeinaD (t) 16:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Billinghurst@enwikisource

Billinghurst is already identified. —Pathoschild 15:57:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. LeinaD (t) 16:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Martin H.@commonswiki

Martin has just been told about the identification process so this is a heads up but it's not ready to be turned on yet. Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 16:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Now he is identified --Mardetanha talk 15:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I'd ask a non Commons-centric steward to give this request (and the supporting discussion) a review and then make the promotion decision, I shan't do it as there was just a smidge of "not completely routine" around this one, since it was extended an extra week to secure the necessary participation, and I participated in the extension discussion... Also, Mardetanha is currently standing for Oversight at Commons so he may or may not want to promote either. I do not think either of us actually have a real COI but still. ++Lar: t/c 15:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Done - Checkuser votes have often been extended (probably a good thing to give more people a chance to comment). I see no issue with giving him checkuser. --Cspurrier 20:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Mardetanha@commonswiki

Successful request for the CU permission. Kanonkas 20:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Erwin@nlwiki

Erwin is already identified to the Foundation. Erwin has accepted the privacy policy. Lolsimon 20:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, CU status granted. LeinaD (t) 20:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Akoopal@nlwiki

Akoopal has accepted the privacy policy. Lolsimon 20:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

On hold until identification comes. LeinaD (t) 20:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Identified & Done  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 15:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hardscarf@nlwiki

Hardscarf has accepted the privacy policy. Lolsimon 20:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

On hold until identification comes. LeinaD (t) 20:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. LeinaD (t) 21:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

E.coli@hrwiki

 On hold til identification comes --Mardetanha talk 18:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. LeinaD (t) 21:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


Oversight access

Peterdownunder@simplewiki

Don't believe he has identified yet. -Djsasso 14:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

User has been identified diff. Barras 15:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. Thanks. --Erwin 16:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Dweller@enwiki

Not yet identified. John Vandenberg 04:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

At some point some sort of nudge back to ArbCom and the user ought to happen to see if they want to withdraw the request or what, in my view. It's getting on a month now. ++Lar: t/c 15:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Per [7], I'm going to mark this as Not done  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 03:16, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal of access

[email protected]

Please, remember to terminate your CU-mailing list subscription. Thank you.
--M/ 07:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Pavlo Shevelo@ukwiki

This is Not done, as there is no consensus about the removal. Also, if there is an ArbCom on uk.wikipedia, it is preferable that a request about removal of rights comes from the ArbCom. Laaknor 19:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. --Prima klasy4na 21:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
  • According to our local rules a user can be desysopped only in case there is a community consensus afrer one-week vote or according to ArbCom desicion. The request of a blocked user who is supposed to evade this block definitely is not a valid reason — NickK 22:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

koba-chan@jawiki

Please remove my access rights at jawiki (administrator). Thanks --Koba-chan 13:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your work.
--M/ 14:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

MagnusA@svwiki

Please remove my access rights at svwiki (administrator and bureaucrat). Thanks --MagnusA 08:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your work as a sysop and bureaucrat.
--M/ 09:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Razorflame@simplewiki

Here there are also a couple of other removal requests. Shall I proceed? Thank you, M/ 09:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Okay, the rollbacker permissions were locally removed, so I'll mark this "Done".
Thanks to Razorflame for his work.
--M/ 10:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Rollback was removed locally. The only thing was the import right, which can't be locally removed. Barras 12:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

tt.wikipedia requests

Joylife@ttwikipedia
Albert Fazlî@ttwikipedia
Dolphin@ttwikipedia
Hello Yildiz, I am inclined to mark all these as not done, because 3 vote is not much and also one voter has really little contributions an other has also little [8]. Please show us the votings for their sysopship, if the votings there look alike, this might be ok, if not, if they had much votes there, IMHO this request should be closed. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 20:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello! We had a voting of rules of voting (Sorry for my bad english). Acording to this rules, voting in which 3 people votes is counting as done, and those 2 person can vote acording to rules (Rinatus is translating the interface). The problem in that: we have a little number of peoples, writing in Tatar Wikipedia, so number of voters is small. But we want to clean a list of administrators, because from 8 admins only 2 are active (me and Timming). So we cannot have posibility to have more voters. Tatar Wikipedia is not using by tatars now, because mostly information on latin alphabet. We want to make Tatar Wikipedia popular, but to do it, we must renew Wikipedia, so we want to leave only active administrators, who is doing administrator duties. Pleasr, help us with it! --Yildiz 11:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
You wrote "He has no activity since 10 Dec 2007.", so how you explain user contribution? LeinaD (t) 21:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, it is not true about 10 Dec 2007. He is not active and do not execute his administrator duties. --Yildiz 11:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I am sorry, but I am still not convinced, the voters are as said IMHO too few, while one voter has nearly only the votes as contributions (if he is translating that is good, but that does not change my opinion). One of the sysops is even bureaucrat (Albert Fazlî), I am not sure if it is clear to the voters that this right is to be removed too? Also I am still missing a link to the votings, I did not find them myself, but a look at them would have been interesting (how many users participated in the sysop votings).
I am marking this therefore as Not done, but leave it open for a second steward to review, if they disagree, they can reopen or do it, as they wish. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 12:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm so disappointed! It means you stop developing of our wikipedia! I wrote you, that we don't have many people in our Wikipedia, We can't collect more votes! So, what must we do????? --Yildiz 13:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry, how is that stopping the development of tt.wikipedia, these users have been voted sysops, and if they don't return their flag does no harm either, but IMHO it does harm to remove it without a broad consent. But as said other stewards can give their opinion here too. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 14:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Spacebirdy. Few people voting this. Alex Pereira falaê 14:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm so sorry! Because of your opinion it will be big problem to renew our wikipedia! Please, explain me, how to colect more voters, if there are no active other users? Administrator Timming asked in June, but you said to make a voting of our comunity. We wrote rules about voting and voted for removing administrators. The voting continued 2 weeks. Every user that has 100 changes could vote according to rules. We used Sitenotice, so every user, coming to Tatar Wikipedia could see it. Please say, what we done wrong? --Yildiz 15:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Again, not done. If there is not enough participation and community consensus, a vote for a flag removal is not valid. An inactive admin in the admin list will not stop your work and could be of hand when back again. --M/ 19:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Peterpan@zhwiki

Original diff & Done — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

肉丝跑蛋@zhwiki

Plese give link? --Shizhao 07:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Original diff & Done  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Burmeister@ptwiki

Done. Obrigado pelo seu trabalho conosco. Alex Pereira falaê 17:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Obrigado Alex Burmeister 17:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Annabel@allwikis

I'm resigning. Please drop all flags. Annabel 17:29, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. Sorry to see you go, and thank you for all your work for the nl-wikis. Laaknor 19:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

LeonardoG@ptwikipedia

Done--Nick1915 - all you want 12:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Jic@ptwikipedia

Done--Nick1915 - all you want 12:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Tuvic@nlwiki

Done--Nick1915 - all you want 08:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

Done. Hope to se you active again later :) Laaknor 11:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

Done for the sysop bit for nlwiki. Thanks for all your work. For OTRS, refer to User:Mwpnl, for IRC, refer to User:Oscar, and for corresponding mailing lists, you can always unsubscribe yourself. --FiliP ██ 10:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

finnrind@metawiki, commonswiki and nowiki

Done. Håper du kommer tilbake igjen, for du kommer til å bli(/er) savnet. Laaknor 14:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Takker. Godt mulig jeg gjør comeback en dag :) Finn Rindahl 15:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your many helpful contributions! ++Lar: t/c 18:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

O@wuuwiki

Since a change in policy is already in progress, I've asked this editor if this flag removal can be reconsidered in a month. --M/ 17:44, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so this request can be closed. I'll make another one in one month --Hercule 19:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. --M/ 19:06, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hill@itwiki

Done, please thank him for his work--Nick1915 - all you want 08:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
DoneGo and do it yourself too, anyway ! :-) --Cotton 09:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Inactive on Commons

Hello,

All person below are inactive arcording to our policy and can be desysopped per this

Thank you, Huib talk 03:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  •  On hold hi huib, on the page you refer to i read "Admins who have been queried about their adminship, please sign below and also fill in the table above. If you don't sign by 9th September 2009, you will lose adminship automatically." shouldn't you therefore wait one more day, until after the announced sep 9? (it doesn't read "if you didn't sign by etc" and that imho makes a slight difference) all the best, oscar 03:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    nope it says These administrators have received a message on their user talk page on August 8 and have to respond within 30 days or will lose adminship. From this run, no admins are considered exempt. and since 9-9-9 is even 31 day's they could sign untill 00:00 UTC Huib talk 03:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    given that it contains both our quoted texts, and to prevent any misunderstandings, i will tend to this tomorrow just to be sure. all the best, oscar 04:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    Ok not a problem by me, I already updated all relevant lists on Commons, so the desysop is just the last step that we need to take. Huib talk 04:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    (due to a bug -tim knows- i couldn't react earlier) thanks for your understanding huib! very best, oscar 10:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    I added Dori, missed that one. Multichill 10:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
    thx multichill! very best, oscar 12:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Apollonios Molon@svwiki

Thank you for your work as a sysop.
--M/ 16:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Baba66@dewiki

Thanks in advance. --Church of emacs talk 19:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Done--Cspurrier 20:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the fast response. --Church of emacs talk 21:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

ひろえ@metawiki

--ひろえ 03:04, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello, You don't have special access on meta nor anywhere else, please stop wasting our time, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 07:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

William M. Connolley@enwp

Done.
--M/ 22:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


[email protected]

there was no discussion - the user agreed to the removal. Mikimik 13:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment Comment - The diff is almost 4 years old, does he still want to lose them? Huib talk 14:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
yes, the diff is almost 4 weeks old and it's his last contribution on he.wikiquote till now. he still wants to lose sysop tools. Mikimik 17:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, my fault, the other part of the diff is from 2006. (me hides for angry stewards) Huib talk 18:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Done by an angry stew :D--Nick1915 - all you want 19:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

piotrus@enwp

Done --FiliP ██ 20:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Snowdog@lmowikipedia

Local policy states: "If a sysop or bureaucrat is not active, i.e. he or she has not made any edit for six months, his permissions are immediately removed". --Dragonòt 20:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. LeinaD (t) 21:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Pabix@frwiki

Done. — Dan | talk 08:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

ברוקולי@hewikiquote

Done thank you for your work!--Nick1915 - all you want 12:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Benjamin@nowiki

According to the rules of nowiki, administrators who have been inactive for a year can lose their rights. (They can get them back if they should become active again.) Benjamin, who is one of the original editors of nowiki, retired just over a year ago and have been inactive since. There is a short discussion with no objection to a removal of the administrator rights after the policy I linked to. Haros 14:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. LeinaD (t) 17:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Gmcfoley@simplewikt

After a local vote, we as a community have decided to remove Gmcfoley's sysop flag. It was closed early because it was showing a clear-cut consensus with nearly all of the active editors already having voted. Thanks, Razorflame 14:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, status removed. LeinaD (t) 17:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Flcelloguy@simplewikt

After a local vote, we as a community have decided to remove Flcelloguy's sysop flag. It was closed early because it was showing a clear-cut consensus with nearly all of the active editors already having voted. Thanks, Razorflame 14:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, status removed. LeinaD (t) 17:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Team OTRS@itwiki

--Vituzzu 15:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Done - it looks right to me. (Done by User:Sj; LeinaD (t) 17:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC))

Mwpnl@strategyapps

Done. Thanks for your work, Mwpnl! (Done by User:Sj; LeinaD (t) 17:19, 21 September 2009 (UTC))

Andrej Š[email protected]

Comment Comment Please wait, it could be a shortcut decision. --Seha 19:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

 On hold. Alex Pereira falaê 19:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Comment Comment THX Alex, I´m gonna try to clear it. --Seha 19:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Confirm link Andrej Šalov 19:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC) Zašto se suprostavljate odluci suradnika???? Andrej Šalov 19:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Andrej, Please read last mail, and if you want, than you can make it. THX --Seha 19:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for your job. Alex Pereira falaê 19:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

Done, thanks for your job. Alex Pereira falaê 22:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


[email protected]

Done --Meno25 22:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Pastor Theo@enwiki

Done — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

SpeedyGonsales@hrwikipedia

Done. User Dtom have your checkuser flag temp removed, per Checkuser policy. After election, will be grant your flag. Alex Pereira falaê 17:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Roberta F.@hrwikipedia

Done. Alex Pereira falaê 17:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

H2g2bob@simplewiktionary

The community has decided to remove both of H2g2bob's flags. Consensus was to remove with 70% in support of the removal of both the flags. Thank you, Razorflame 03:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 On hold can you show me your policy of desysoping ? --Mardetanha talk 03:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Read right under the heading here. This is not a solid policy for desysopping, though. It is just for use during these three desysoppings (two of which have already been completed). If it is really needed, I will start a discussion on what we should use as a permanent support amount. Until then, I do believe that the guideline that was brought about for this desysop should hold. Cheers, Razorflame 03:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Again  On hold , per discussion with you , thanks --Mardetanha talk 03:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Not done per discussion again :-) --Mardetanha talk 03:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment Comment: There is no desysop policy. The "policy" for this desoping is mentioned above. The voting users read it, I guess and the supporter didn't disagreed. Why is there a problem? The other two requests (one or two days ago were done by Leinad. Barras 13:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Sysop and crat flag removed --Mardetanha talk 21:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Zhile@hrwiki

sysop flag removed Thanks for all your efforts for the project --Mardetanha talk 07:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Szyx@frwiktionary

Szyx requests the removal of his sysop flag in the french Wiktionnary. He don't want to make the request here himself (has I'm not sure to make a good translation, I give you the french reason he gave : "tout simplement parce que cela me fait chier."). So I make the request here for him. --Hercule 09:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. guillom 11:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Dferg@eswikibooks

Please remove only my transwiki import flags as per reasons stated on the diff provided above. Thank you, df| 18:10, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, flag removed. LeinaD (t) 18:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Turzh@ukwiki

Jelte@nlwiki

Please remove my sysop rights on the Dutch Wikipedia. Jelte 14:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Done. LeinaD (t) 14:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

רחל1@hewiki

Please remove my CheckUser privileges on the Hebrew Wikipedia. Thanks, רחל1 14:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Done thank you for your work!--Nick1915 - all you want 16:19, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Plz remove sysopship as I can't log-in with this nickname (Turzh) & keep acting using other name (IgorT) --93.73.23.176 21:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
what? why you can't?--Nick1915 - all you want 11:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I've already wrote in other section of Steward requests. Every time log-in (Turzh) is OK, next page or search make me as undefined user. --93.73.23.176 11:21, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
2Turzh: can you login here (on Meta) with Turzh nickname? 2Prima: stewards only remove status, for granting status for other nickname ask local crats.--Ahonc 14:32, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
2Ahonc: I've already said you that I wasn't able to login here & elsewhere. And pls pay attention I'm asking about removing, not granting. --93.73.23.176 17:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I said about granting to Prima.--Ahonc 20:45, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
And I said you, dear Anatoliy, --93.73.18.34 09:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I send a validation magic key to uk:special:emailuser/Turzh and informed some of the other stewards as to its content in order to verify that the IP is the person owning the Turzh account. If a response is posted with the correct key, there is no reason to deny his request. Corrections can be performed later. Kylu 19:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
"I want adminship for Turzh@ukwiki removed. Kylu's magic key is ohBae6Ae." --93.73.18.34 09:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Done, key confirmed. Laaknor 15:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


[email protected]

Thank you. — YourEyesOnly 02:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, status removed. LeinaD (t) 10:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Palnatoke@dawiki

User has both sysop and CU access. Which is to be removed? Please also note that there are currently only two checkusers on local wiki.
--M/ 19:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
The thought was to remove both, but let's wait until dawiki has added a third checkuser. --Palnatoke 06:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Indech@ptwiki

I ask for my desysop. Thank You. Indech 19:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Done, status removed. LeinaD (t) 19:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Portalian@thwiki

Please remove my sysop rights on the Thai Wikipedia. Thank you. --Portalian 10:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Done, status removed. LeinaD (t) 12:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

Done. LeinaD (t) 13:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Merci, Leinad. Enmerkar 15:05, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


Temporary permissions (rejected and expired requests only)

[email protected]

ok, it expires 12 September, 2009--Nick1915 - all you want 15:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Moon@kwwikipedia

Requesting renewal of my temporary adminship. Many thanks, --Kw-Moon 09:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Done, expires: 10-09-2009 please remember to translate the interface at betawiki: only and to upload images preferably to commons:, please come back a few days before the status expires to prolong it or hold a local voting if the community grows, thanks, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 09:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Removed. Alex Pereira falaê 19:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Teak@hywikisource

Thank you! ― Teak 15:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Done, expires: 13-09-2009 please remember to translate the interface at betawiki: only and to upload images preferably to commons:, please come back a few days before the status expires to prolong it or hold a local voting if the community grows, thanks, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
removed. --თოგო (D) 10:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Muddyb Blast Producer@sw wiktionary

I request temporary sysop access.

  • Language Code: sw
  • List of local sysops: (none, except I think Dubaduba, not active)
  • List of local bureaucrats: (none)
  • Local User Page: sw:User:Muddyb Blast Producer
  • Preferred duration and reason: 3-6 months, (translate interface), maintain some places which I got problem with the right of accessing.

Thank you.--Wikipedian (Activist) 11:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The only admin is inactive
Done
Expires 14 semptember 2009
Please remember that wiki interface is to be translated on betawiki:, see betawiki:Translating:How to start.
--M/ 11:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
removed --თოგო (D) 10:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


Miscellaneous requests

mhr.wikipedia importers

I propose to grant Importer flag to the following users in mhr:wiki --Dnikitin 12:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[email protected]

MF-Warburg is incubator sysop and he is ready to help our small :mhr:wiki to import some templates. See incubator:User_talk:MF-Warburg#Mari_wiki --Dnikitin 12:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Done  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
[email protected]

Amdf is the only sysop in mhr.wiki --Dnikitin 12:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Done  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


[email protected]

(your remarks)--Nstm 13:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

What are You requesting? Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 13:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Invalid request. --M/ 10:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

[email protected] bug access issue

The following discussion is closed.

(After the system gave me approval to proceed with starting SUL my account, it logged me into Commons okay, but it has done something which is not auto-logging me into Meta, and is actually preventing me from logging in there now. I'm am reluctant to try any more projects, as I don't want to see it break my access to any other projects, even though the SUL is supposed to streamline the login-access process. SUMMARY - Please restore my access to Meta, or kill the account on Meta and I can try it again, or fix the bug. Thanks much) 15:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Your sul account looks just fine, please tell us what error message You get and make sure to have a clear cache and to accept cookies! (that might already solve the problem...) Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 01:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help :) Here are the points of trouble..

1) At login screen for this meta.Wikipedia location, it tells me "Login error Incorrect password entered. Please try again." ..If the SUL was working it would log me in here too without even requiring a separate login screen. The SUL system had said all was ready to go and approved before I pushed that button to go ahead with it.

2) AT the toolserver http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Aviedit, it reports my account for here as "unattached", leading me to believe it is another bug which did not correctly link my global account together. You can see by the time stamps there that it was after I instituted the SUL attempt, though it does not show my original meta registration date, which should be roughly around the time of my en.Wikipedia registration date (sometime in 2007).

3) Clearly I am the same person (en.Wiki and meta.Wiki), and you can see from my en.Wiki contributions page, and my meta.Wiki file upload, which is a direct subset of my en.Wiki contribution (file at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SamOlyEagle1.png, and contribution at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sam_(Olympic_mascot)&diff=next&oldid=173290422).

All of this leads me to believe there is a bug in the SUL (which has been noted, there are some bugs), which isn't allowing me to access my account on the meta.Wiki as I previously could. The least likely possibility is that I used a different password over here than at en.Wiki, but that seems very unlikely, since the SUL page gave me the full go-ahead to implement it that everything had checked out alright before I pressed that button, and am now having a problem.

If you need any more info, plz feel free to ask.. Thanks 14:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Can You please try using the password You had before You used sul, or if that does not work, please try password reset. (note - This did not work after the SUL broke, but after you fixed it, my password worked again Aviedit 03:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)) This indeed seems to be a bug, because in special:centralauth the account on Meta is neither unattached nor attached, it simply does not show up at all. There were such occurences in the very beginning, but they were fixed, apparently not completely. However, using the old password or doing a password reset and then merging the account with special:mergeaccount solved the problem. Please try this and report if it works or not. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
P.S. Do You see the meta account as unattached one in en:special:mergeaccount? --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Since the account on meta was never used (0 edits) and appeared to have been automatically created yesterday, I've renamed it and the system now correctly says that the name is already taken for SUL if I try to create a new one on meta. Please try now and let us know. Thank you. --M/ 20:28, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

- Thank you for your diligence, birdy and M7 .. :) ..I was pleasantly surprised when I checked the toolserver and no longer see the "unattached" message there, and in answer to your question I never did see the Meta account as noted in the special-mergeaccount area.. my clues to the problem were a) seeing the unattached message in the toolserver, b) and the change in status at the top of the screen when going from any other wiki to the Meta wiki, whereas it normally showed logged in, and suddenly at that one it would not be logged in, even after clearing the cache from before.

Before I login, how would you like me to proceed.. should I login at my Home Wiki and proceed as standard by going to the others and the Meta after that, to see if it logs me in the way the system is intended, or should I first (before logging in anywhere) go to the Meta and login independently there? When dealing with bugs, I don't want to take a chance on undoing what you seem to have fixed. :) ..Thanks 01:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello... :) Looking a little bit closer to what you said and and based also on M7s statement of "the system now correctly says that the name is already taken for SUL if I try to create a new one on meta", that sounds like the SUL loging at my home wiki should actually work now, so I'll try logging in that way and see how it goes, and if it still has an issue we can try the rename-discard again ah? Thanks! 03:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Oky doke... here's what happened (maybe it'll be of further assistance on solving this bug).. I went ahead and did the standard SUL login, which is supposed to log me in globally. Unfortunately this still did not log me into Meta at this point, as it is designed to do. However, I went back and logged out of SUL, and then logged into Meta directly, and that finally registered me, apparently, via that route. (I'm presuming all the other subsequent wikis will login correctly hereafter. My deduction is that 1) combined with the "_discard" fix that M7 did, and 2) the advice and investigation that spacebirdy did, both helped this be resolved, at least in current functionality until the bug is traced. And 3) perhaps part of the bug root is that I had the Aviedit account there back in November of 2007 (I think), and perhaps the migration problem had something to do with a bot that converted my only file from JPG to PNG (which is fine), but that automatically takes ownership of the file, so my name and entries still existed, but realistically (as you noted) it showed that I had 0 entries there anymore because the bot converted them... ? Just chasing possibilities... I can't think of any other reason it wouldn't work, but since it finally logged me in, I can sign properly here now :) Thanks Lots! Aviedit 03:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: uh oh.... sorry, but I have some bad news about that bug :/ After I wrote the above, I went to dinner and my login had timed out when I got back, so I logged in again (fine so far), the en.Wiki home wiki login went fine, and right afterward you get that window that says it is logging in globally. So I waited a minute to make sure it was finished... but now, after logging in again (after the above successes), I no long show as logged in to ANY of the other wikis, not just the Meta wiki :/ And... I (again) cannot login to the individual wikis with my password again, even after clearing the local cache and cookies.

So, I'd like to humbly request (and sorry for the trouble), but until this bug is fixed, could you please just 1) Reverse/Cancel my SUL and 2) kill all the auto-initiated accounts (except my Home Wiki at enWiki) shown at http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Aviedit (and also the Meta one with my two edits, which are just comments here in this thread)... and, when I see them cleared on the toolserver, I will just go ahead and re-make the accounts individually for now. Logging in at each instead will still be a lot less frustrating than having it be broken and not being globally logged in, and not being able to login at all. (this section retracted since it has been discovered SUL will function at least in FireFox..)

Thanks Again, and I'm glad to help if I can answer any more questions which can help solve this issue/bug.

I think it is better to escalate this to developers, just let me suggest a couple of other tests. Since it seems strange to me that login expires just in a few hours, will you please try
  • another browser
  • another connectivity, if available
  • another PC/workstation, if possible,
just to make sure that the problem is not "your side". Thank you for your patience. --M/ 08:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

..Sounds fine :) Before I go check another few machines, I can pass along what's been used so far.. I have been using two machines for this effort to go SUL, since it seems like such a good concept.. both machines are Vista, one the initial release, the other SP1 (second release). First machine is 3 years old, 2nd machine is 3 months old. Three browsers have been used for the tests, though I haven't taken notes on that subtlety.. the outcome seems the same so far (FireFox 2.0.0.4, GoogleChrome 2.0.172.43, and I.E. 7). The last few tests (trying to get in and hope it would keep working) was in I.E. 7 unrestricted .. I didn't want to take any chances that AdBlockers or ScriptBlockers (used in FireFox) would affect the process.

My other options are to try it on WinXP with FireFox and I.E. 6, and on Mac 10.2, or .3 or .4 with Safari, FireFox, I.E. (version unknown), Camino and iCab.

To recap, 1) the main home wiki login seems to work fine still. 2) The meta wiki worked once after you did the _discard, but I had to login directly to it (which means it wasn't a password issue), and then did not work the second or subsequent times. 3) Now the SUL no longer works for me on the other sites as well, which worked before we tried this fix.

I will go test.. - logging into en home wiki and see if SUL works in some browsers. - if not, will try independently logging into one or more of the ten other sites (shown as registered by SUL).

Thanks! (p.s. I am not signing these for now since it just puts my I.P. in ... dunno that this matters unless you want it for now)... -Aviedit

FIRST REPORT - from Mac OSX 10.3 (I could not find iCab and Camino on this one.. must have been another machine... sorry)

FireFox 1.x - Worked absolutely swimmingly! (using it right now for that reason) Logged in at home wiki, went to other wpedia and wmedia sites, stayed logged in all through. Logged out and relogged in, went fine second time too. So far it looks like I may have to use SUL on this old Mac with this old FireFox! :D
Safari 1.x - Almost completely tanked. Stayed logged in with home wiki (en) but would not be logged in on other wikis, and after I came back from going to the others, it had logged me out even at the home wiki.
I.E. 5.x - Another fail, but even moreso. It logged me in but would not even go past the first page.. logged out right away upon transitioning to any other wiki page.

Going to check the XP machine now. Aviedit 11:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

SECOND REPORT - from WinXP

FireFox 1.x - Worked great again, as in the above Mac test, although it wouldn't log me into the Incubator wiki, but I don't know if that's one not included in the SUL or not. This also proved to be true when I went back to this Mac... no SUL for the Incubator, but at least I still stayed logged in the other pages without getting kicked.
I.E. 6x - Again, this tanked pretty badly. Would not SUL login to the other wikis. Did keep me logged into the home wiki though.

I suppose it would not bee too much trouble to use the Mac FireFox for SUL.. I don't do all that many updates :D .. but I will go check FireFox and GoogleChrome on the other Vista machine now before I give up and resort to that.

THIRD REPORT - I guess I won't have to be doing that :) Both FireFox 2.x and seemed to work fine on the second Vista machine, and GoogleChrome mostly fine, except for some very short time-outs on the login presence. Again (just like on the other Vista) I.E. 7 phailed when trying to navigate to another wiki and get logged in there, though it did keep me logged in at home.

The problems from the bug seem to be in their relationship with Internet Explorer and Safari primarily, and possibly other browsers. I got concerned because I had my first results from the fixes you all did from using I.E. 7 to implement the fixed SUL you all did for my login. I'm fine with using FireFox to login, now that I know, although for the bug's sake I suppose it might be well to get it playing nicely with Safari and I.E. and other browsers someday (did not test AOL or Opera either, for example).. :)

Oh .... funny little thing happened as I tried to post this entry this time (related to your comment about exceedingly short sessions above).. I got a "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in." message, which means the session (while using GoogleChrome right now) expired in minutes, not hours ;P (might still be a significant bug factor). Thus, instead of taking a chance, I came back to FireFox to repost this section, and will probably use it exclusively until this all gets solved.

p.s. (In case there is any question, I know the work on the bug goes on, but since I can SUL with FireFox, the trouble on my end is over (I think), so you can consider this Done if you wish, yet feel free to ask anything of me that would continue to help.. and thanks for all your hard work! I will continue to check this for another few days or weeks just in case).

p.p.s. An additional note which may help with the bug.. I noticed that my auto-signature is not putting my name on Talk Pages (as noted here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:HP_Pavilion_(computer)#One_Troubleshooting_Note) .. I tried twice, once with the tildetildetildetilde and once with the dashdashtildetildetildetilde, and both times it only put the date stamp without the name.

Thanks Again! ..Aviedit 12:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

closed, isn't it, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

- I agree .. :D ! Hopefully there's some info here to help with the bug stuff. Thanks for all the interaction and assistance.. Aviedit 14:22, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Dferg@eswikibooks

Please assign me import right as per linked request. No opposition/comments since it was posted (eswb is, sadly, a small community). Thank you, df|  16:07, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Done ;) Laaknor 16:10, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Natalieblenford@enwiki

The following discussion is closed.

Please help me. I jined Wikipedia to create a page about my client, Natalie Blenford. I have done this, and I now discover I can't put it live due to coflict of interest (apparently). So i now want to delete the data about her, and her account. But I am literally stuck in the web and can't work out how to do either of these. Please help me, this is getting claustraphobic. I either want to put her page live, or delete the whole enterprise, (your remarks) — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Natalieblenford (talk) diff, please sign with --~~~~ (UTC)

Stewards don't do page deletions in projects where there are local administrators. If you tell us what wiki you are talking about, we might be able to point you to the right spot where you can request deletion. --FiliP ██ 23:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Just a note: I believe this was resolved on en.wiki, the page was created in user space and moved to a nonexistent user space. Both copies were deleted. Jamesofur 20:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
=> closed, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 14:22, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Import rights for Томми Нёрд@ruwiki

I'm translating a series of articles concerning US Supreme Court into Russian. To complete my task I have to create over one hundred of related templates. The simplest and most effective way to do this is import from en.wiki. Furthermore, as some experienced editors pointed out has import function supports coping edit history, what gives it an advantage from legal POV. Томми Нёрд 16:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello. It doesn't look like you have asked about beeing given these rights on the local wiki. Please request on the local wiki, and come back here if the local community agrees to give you this right. Laaknor 16:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
No response in 6 days; Not done Laaknor 08:08, 20 September 2009 (UTC)