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Global bot status for Dušan Kreheľ (bot) (request n. 2)

The following request is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Status:    Withdrawn
Not ending before 11 August 2022 15:51 UTC

(your remarks) Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

  • I wonder what is the state of discussion on one or another major wikis regarding the question if the intended changes are desired. Is there any relevant previous discussion, perhaps for enwiki? Does the list also contain information about not approved task, or is this missing? (Asking this to understand if existing approvals on smaller wikis were granted more based on positive consensus or on negative objection.) --Krd 04:59, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
    @Krd: The discussion (not in the "List") for the older version with my bot was on enwiki, dewiki and the problems (none bot block) on jawiki. But the warning, because the enwiki and dewiki don't allow the global bots. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 19:59, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
    I understand that this was rejected on all mentioned larger wikis. Why should it be done on small wiki? Krd 15:19, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Big wikis - rather a lot of resources and people. Big wikis - rather a lot of resources, people and goals. Small wikis, a not excellent solution may be enough. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:33, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
I stoping this request. I found the best way. It would be best if MediaWiki would does this automatically when rendering the page. I will propose it in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. @Krd: Ping. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:33, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Marking as Request withdrawn per above. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 23:14, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Global bot status for Dušan Kreheľ (bot)

Status:    Not done
Not ending before 25 July 2022 19:59 UTC

Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 19:59, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Comment Comment MassMessage sent, as required by policy. —Thanks for the fish! talk•contrib (he/him) 21:08, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Support Support * Pppery * it has begun 21:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello @Dušan Kreheľ, I reviewed a couple of edits at the wikis where the task is already approved. While reviewing the edits, I noticed [1] [2] [3] and similar. Why was _r removed as a tracking parameter? To generalize my question: What rules does the bot use to decide whether or not a parameter is tracking? Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:33, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
The task description seems to have several footnotes on why. Did you review that? Izno (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
@Martin Urbanec I believe User:Dušan_Kreheľ/Bot:Removal_of_tracking_URL_parameters#Removes_parameters_from_URL should have the full list of removed url parameters, most of which have a source as to why they are removed (although alas _r seems to lack a source.) -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 17:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks @Izno and @Asartea, I managed to miss the docs subpage, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. That said, the Google Groups thread linked at it ([4]) doesn't really clarify much – it appears to be originally about gtm (and /r, ie. a part of path, not a parameter). The _r parameter is mentioned there with a link to [5], but that page (unless I miss something) doesn't mention/confirm the trackiness.
On another note, I also noticed [6] [7]. While this seems to be correct cleanup, it looks out of scope to me (as it doesn't appear to remove a tracking parameter). Martin Urbanec (talk) 22:17, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
@Martin Urbanec: I added 2 new reference for the parameter "_r". A official definition for the parameter "r" is maybe in the history somewhere of the webachive.org.
Even one insignificant character can be used for tracking. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 13:27, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the references, I appreciate it. Looks much better now. While it's true even single-character parameter values can be used for tracking (anything can), the important question is whether the parameters indeed are used for tracking (or at least, do not affect the resulting HTML). The second option (returned HTML is the same) should be reasonably easy to implement, and it would increase my confidence with the bot. Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:12, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
@Martin Urbanec: I don't want to verify the functionality of the lines.
Verifying the functionality of the lines may not be easy. The pages don't can exist. Questionable result: the HTML can be changed in the advertisement, the template can be changed, the information can be from an image or pdf document to the page. And it takes time to check changes. If there is a questionable parameter (e.g. ref), I will not add it (less is sometimes more). If by chance something goes wrong, it can be wiped out. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 18:02, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
FYI: Task for removing Google Analytics tracking parameters, and Twitter.com tracker tags. Stang 16:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
I was going to propose re-running the GA tracking parameters (as I've dealt with Theo's code in the past), but if this bot can handle those, I'm happy to Support Support. EpicPupper (talk) 01:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Support Support -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 17:59, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
redirect=no is legitimately used in Mediawiki talk pages and some help pages. Leave them out or stick to main namespace? Geraki TL 15:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
@Geraki: I removing, because i thinks the one idea: The local wikipedia is a one "URL database" and for this database is good to have the clean URLs, none parameters to emulate the user behavior. The URL in the local wiki create the new space to share the URLs and because the clean links.
Namespaces (added): #The_Wikipedia_namespace. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Support Support I do recommend excluding redirect=no though. EpicPupper (talk) 03:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Support Support AlPaD (talk) 11:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Support Support but also not sure about redirect=no. Feel free to add feature=youtu.be too (35K global uses according to https://global-search.toolforge.org/); this was part of KolbertBot's tasks on enwiki. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Comment Comment The bot description has been updated. The parameters redirect / noredirect has been removed. The parameter feature is included to removing. (@1234qwer1234qwer4, EpicPupper, and Geraki: Ping).
Comment Comment There is currently some activity at de:User talk:Dušan Kreheľ (bot), and IMHO there are some reasonable suggestions that should be implemented before this is run at even larger scale / less monitored wikis. --Krd 15:42, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose I have noticed the problems in dewiki. Dušan has responded to all requests and fixed problems when someone noticed them. But I think this bot needs more experience and we need to reduce the problems as good as possible before we let them edit small projects where problems are not noticed so fast. I would suggest to wait some weeks/months until everything works a bit better. --Ameisenigel (talk) 15:53, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
i agree that it needs more experience. -- seth (talk) 21:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Comment Comment I also think that the issues caused by the recent deployment of the bot in German-language Wikipedia are somewhat concerning. FYI, the bot is currently blocked in dewiki pending a fix of the issues. Gestumblindi (talk) 18:44, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose per the issues at dewiki. I don't have any issues with the task itself, but it seems its implementation has issues. I think a new global bot should run w/o issues at several wikis (ideally, including some of the major wikis) w/o issues before the flag is granted. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:30, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose per Martin but happy to revisit at a later date. --Rschen7754 18:02, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Not done No consensus. Ruslik (talk) 20:50, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Removal of global bot status

Bot status requests

NjsBot@blkwiki

Status:    Done

Please add a bot flag to this bot account. Thanks. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 16:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Done Ruslik (talk) 20:50, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Removal of bot status

Inactive bots @brwikipedia

Status:    Done

The proposal to remove the bot flag from bots that have been inactive for at least two years met no oppositions (and no reactions, actually). Most of these bots used to manage interwiki links, they are now useless. Some belong to users who have been gone for many years. Here is the list: Addbot, Albambot, Alecs.bot, Alexbot, AlleborgoBot, Almabot, Amirobot, ArthurBot, Ash Bot, AvicBot, AvocatoBot, BOTarate, BenoniBot, BodhisattvaBot, BotMultichill, Byrialbot, CarsracBot, ChuispastonBot, CocuBot, DSisyphBot, DixonDBot, Ebrambot, Egmontbot, EleferenBot, EmausBot, Escarbot, FoxBot, GhalyBot, GnawnBot, HerculeBot, HiW-Bot, Idioma-bot, JAnDbot, JackieBot, JhsBot, Justincheng12345-bot, KamikazeBot, Kasirbot, Le Pied-bot~brwiki, Loveless, Luckas-bot, MastiBot, MelancholieBot, MerlIwBot, MerlLinkBot, Mjbmrbot, MondalorBot, Movses-bot, Muro, NobelBot, PipepBot, PixelBot, PolarBot, Ptbotgourou, Purbo, Rezabot, Robbot, Rubinbot, SamoaBot, SassoBot, SieBot, SoxBot, SpBot, Synthebot, TXiKiBoT, Thijs!bot, TjBot, Vagobot, VolkovBot, WarddrBOT, WikiDreamer, WikitanvirBot, YFdyh-bot, YunBot, Zxabot, タチコマ. Thanks. Huñvreüs (talk) 17:53, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

List of users

--Martin Urbanec (talk) 20:52, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Done @Huñvreüs: I think I got all now (it's definitely possible I missed some of the users listed when I was removing the rights one-by-one). Can you please check and let me know if anything else's left? Thanks, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:10, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

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