User talk:UtherSRG/Archive 9

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 Abakan Ilyushin Il-76 crash (2nd nomination) Afd closure

Hello user UtherSRG, a non-admin user closed the discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 Abakan Ilyushin Il-76 crash (2nd nomination) without initially providing a rationale. Upon asking as to why they had closed the discussion, [1], they stated that they had closed the discussion stating that "The noms contention that this was a "run of the mill event" is not accepted" adding that they would not pursue a re-open and that I could ask for an admin to do so if I wished and later replying that they had nothing else to add. I'm not here to ask whether the article should be kept or deleted but I would like to request for the re-opening of the discussion as I feel like User:Destarun didn't adequately analyse the discussion. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - UtherSRG (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

About User talkpages

UtherSRG, Hello,Nice to meet you again, can you protect my Usertalk page from Ip editors or new users because sometimes they request for review her draft on my usertalkpage after, I receive notification from Wikipedia, I don't like to more afc draft on request if they are not more valuable or notable and I'm medical students, so, I have not enough time to reply other users as soon as possible, I happy if you semi-protect as indef my usertalkpage. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done You got it. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I don't think this is a good idea. Aviram7 is enrolled in the mentorship program, which necessarily means that they will get questions from new users. In addition, they are a reviewer and should really expect to get messages from non-auto-confirmed accounts about their reviews. It's almost like inviting new users to post and then technically preventing them from doing so.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

This is indeed a bad idea, Aviram7. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Undone. Yes, as a mentor and reviewer, you can't do that. Either resign as mentor and reviewer, or give up on restricting access to your talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I am currently having a lot of mental or health issues in my personal life, I really enjoy helping new users and other users , however I can't help other users when I can't give advice myself because I myself need someone's help, I just want to edit Wikipedia in peace for as long as I can, maybe I need a rest...~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Problems in your real life should always take precedence over editing Wikipedia. By all means, take a break.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:26, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I guess I don't need to protect my usertalkpage anymore since I'm also a mentorship and NPP reviewer, hmm... I'll try to go Wikibreak after I've finished the may drive of NPP backlog because I'm participated on them, thank you all for giving me good advice, I'll always try to help new and old editors on Wikipedia.. 😎~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey UtherSRG! can you protect my alternate's Userpage and it's Usertalkpage as both protect extended confirmed protection indef because they are redirect to my current usertalkpage, avoid to prevent editing from others editors, I think any other users have not objections for this, please can you do for me, if you feel comfortable?  Thanks~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done That seems reasonable. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

UtherSRG, Thanks a lot for protecting them.😎~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 13:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Quick note on the {{copy edit}} tag

FYI: citation checking and citation fixes are pretty out of scope for a copy edit; I think the other tags you added at International Academy of Cytology sufficed [2]. Thanks! Wracking ^talk! 04:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Hey!UtherSRG, I always see you everytime helping others editors and new editors also with civility and I happy to giving you "cup of coffee" for drinking, I'll feel happy if you accept this wikilove message who sent from me.😎 ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 15:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Please check you're Mailbox!

Hello, UtherSRG. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Happy editing ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 07:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Just go on {{wikibreak}}. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for answering the questions on my talk, I had some real life stuff to take care of and I have set myself to inactive for mentoring. Best, v/r - Seawolf35 ^T--C 13:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Fileas Fogg (15:53, 29 May 2024)

Hi, nice to meet you. I had no idea you could edit Wikipedia and help keep articles up to date with correct sources. I'm mainly interested in history, politics, and a little philosophy (logic and reason). Since creating this account, I have primarily read the guidance and tutorials, but I am very interested in helping once I'm up to date with current practices. --Fileas Fogg (talk) 15:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Fileas Fogg: Indeed. One of the best things to read is WP:BACKWARDS. In a nutshell: start by finding appropriate references, and then add information from those sources into existing articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi

Hello how arw you? can you see this if i want start draft about this subject can you help me Omarbinomar9 (talk) 11:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

you can see news on google Omarbinomar9 (talk) 11:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

https://g.co/kgs/S65dMSb Omarbinomar9 (talk) 11:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I suggest you read both WP:YFA and WP:BACKWARDS to learn what is needed, and then go to WP:AFC to create a draft. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Blocked again. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 11:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible

Hello, UtherSRG,

I think you restored all of these drafts but didn't make minor edits to the pages so they appear to be eligible for deletion again. Could you remedy this? Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I tried a few times, and no amount of reasonable minor edit stuck (single space, rm space, add line, rm line). - UtherSRG (talk) 12:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

These articles are still listed as eligible for CSD G13 speedy deletion. Can you make minor edits to the pages? Maybe add a word or header. Is there something wrong with User:SD0001/RFUD-helper? Or are these articles just too short? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

The articles are just too short. The requestor should make improvements on them, or they should be re-deleted until they are ready to make those updates. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Restoration

Would you by any chance be able to restore Draft talk:Harald Eidheim? The wikiproject categories helps it show up on various Article alerts Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

I see nothing to restore. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Palestine in plant articles

Please see Palestine (region)#Flora distribution. The political move is the replacement of "Palestine" (or better "the region of Palestine") by "Israel", which is sadly all too common. Sources like Plants of the World Online use the WGSRPD units. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah... I was seeing a change to using either Ireal or Palestine being changed to the other after the conflict between them had started (or increased, depending on your perspective) as being the political edit. If we have a particular standard and this edit was in keeping with it, then that's fine. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the problem is that both sides interpret "Palestine" politically, which is why I try to use something like the [[Palestine (region)|region of Palestine]], but inevitably it gets changed back and forth to either "Israel" or plain "Palestine". Sigh...

(The reason that plant taxonomic databases use "Palestine" derives, as far as I can tell, from Flora Palaestina – see the introduction to List of native plants of Flora Palaestina (A–B).)

Peter coxhead (talk) 13:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the further explanation! - UtherSRG (talk) 13:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry update

Hello, regarding this case, Marek Sobola is now reactivated, and KysuckeMuzeum is a second sockpuppet. — Biruitorul ^Talk 11:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Please make an SPI report for this. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Advice on Dorcadion kartalense and author

Hi UtherSRG, I was looking at Dorcadion kartalense. To me, I do not think the article is ready for the mainspace. I was thinking about moving it to draft, but I have seen weaker species articles (I have probably made one or two myself). To me this seemed basically like a copy and paste from WikiSpecies (species:Dorcadion_kartalense), without attribution. When is it appropriate to move a valid species article to draft? I have made some minor improvements to the article.

I then looked into the author of the article, it appears to be the scientists credited with finding this species. I have noticed the user is potentially trying to create their own Wiki article and an article for the journal they manage. The journal they manage is used a citation in this species article and in a few others. Additionally, they have created a category Category:Taxa_named_by_Maxim_Lazarev. Their Wikispecies userpage redirects to their Wikispecies article (see here) -- but I understand Wikispecies might have different policies. I recognize that the author is probably notable enough for their own EN Wiki page, but this feels like COI on a few fronts and away to juice the system to get their preferred outcome.

I left a COI user warning on the author's talk page, in hopes that they disclose explicitly on English Wiki if there is any connection.

I am wondering if I should have approached this differently or not at all? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I would say this should be discussed more broadly. I suggest raising it as an issue on WP:AN. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Why WP:AN and not WP:COIN? --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 14:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@Classicwiki: That would be good, too. Might be better. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Specktrum (10:30, 7 June 2024)

Hello I would like to create a page on a new type of art I created --Specktrum (talk) 10:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

You should read WP:YFA and WP:BACKWARDS. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from ChristopherIsReal (10:29, 11 June 2024)

I have so many people asking me for information about me and the work I do. They keep asking me if I have a WIKI page. So can I make a page about myself and the work I do? --ChristopherIsReal (talk) 10:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

@ChristopherIsReal: While you can do so, you are strongly encouraged to not do so. Please read and understand WP:AUTOB. In a nutshell: Wikipedia doesn't care what subject has to say about themselves; we only care about what significant coverage has been written in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

OK I get it. So it has to be someone other than the person who the article is about. Thanx ChristopherIsReal (talk) 10:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Schendylops ramirezi

I am working on an article on Schendylops ramirezi, and if I understand the edit history correctly, you think that it can be improved and needs rewriting. Thanks for the suggestion about adding links, which I have now done. Can you explain what other issues you see with the article? I am continuing to edit the article and would like to address your concerns. HCUPa (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

The Description is significantly more than just description. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback: I've tried to trim the Description section to minimize digressions, hoping these edits are responsive. HCUPa (talk) 14:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Linking to an existing genus article in place of a non-existing species article is problematic. If that species article gets created, the user will be directed to the wrong place. This is why I rewrote that sentence. Please consider something similar. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:42, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Page move

Hi UtherSRG, I know this is a good faith edit but I seek you revert the move as the subject isn't the primary topic. Check the DAB page pls. Also, you didn't notify my move which you reverted. If you disagree with me, it's most appropriate opening a RM discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

The DAB indicates she is the primary topic, so the move was proper. To undo the move, the DAB should also be reformulated. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:54, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

No, the page view tells it all. I moved the page to it's disambiguator "philanthropist" to be a better dab to the "preacher" while the page Mary Fletcher becomes the DAB page. If you had disagree with that, while didn't you open a requested move. I know you are right with your understanding but it's an error for me. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I did what I thought was right. You do you. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@SafariScribe: I think you used the wrong move template. Please see WP:RM for the proper procedure. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the species range for the Asiatic Wild Ass

I saw you undid my revision for the range details for the Asiatic wild ass citing that it was 'unsourced'. As a result, I would like to show you that the IUCN Red List lists only India under the extant range for the Ghudkhur subspecies of the Asiatic wild ass (the one native to South Asia), as it has been extirpated from Pakistan.

Source: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/7963/3144616 SwiftChronicle (talk) 17:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Wealthofnation (04:14, 14 June 2024)

Dear UtherSRG,

New to editing on Wikipedia. I've been trying to clean up endowment for University of Cambridge and its 31 colleges. I usually update the endowment and net worth of each college annually as well as the University's total endowment.

It's a very big task, as Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not publish consolidated endowment of all colleges. Therefore, I have to look up financial statement of each individual college on Charity Commission's website and update each college's endowment individually. 1) Is there a way for us to clean up the Colleges of the University of Cambridge page so I don't have to read 31 financial statements each year?

There also appears to be some dispute with another editor as to what constitutes Cambridge's overall endowment. Cambridge Uni Endowment Fund currently stands at 4 billion GBP (reference included), but not all of the Uni's endowment is in this fund.

2) How would we better gauge Cambridge's overall financial wealth? Is there a reviewer who can step in and resolve this.

Thank you. --Wealthofnation (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I can help with general editing matters, but these questions are out of my realm. Both of your questions would be good to address on the article's talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Pradedovići (11:17, 14 June 2024)

Hey there. Are there any particular methods to finding information about an otherwise unknown topic, especially if very little information is found by simply searching up a subject's name for example? Many thanks. --Pradedovići (talk) 11:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

There's no standard way, since there is no telling where informaiton may be found. The world is a very chaotic place, eh? However, there are a variety of places and methods you can use to find information. Help:Find sources has a lot of great tips and tools you can try. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Fringe edits

A user keeps adding original research and fringe theories to this page, to support the idea that it is actually a dinosaur, can you do something? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dinosaur_of_Ta_Prohm&curid=73438035&action=history Bonus Person (talk) 14:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Reverted and protected. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Article title

While some news outlets, reviews, and some booksellers do call the page "Rick and Morty: Go to Hell" with the colon, Oni Press themselves don't use a colon in the title. Even in their recommended buy lists at the back of each omnibus, they have the "TM" trademark symbol then a colon after every "Rick and Morty" title but "Go to Hell". I think the page should be moved back. Hardik Joshi India (talk) 05:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

We care more about how things are described in independent and reliable sources. Oni Press is not independent. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Humble Request

UtherSRG! Hi there, can you please protect this edit notice at ecu protection level, as per protection policy ,this editnotice are directly showing to others editors who access on my usertalkpage during editing, this important for me and I sometime edit this editnotice, If you protect my this subpage on my request then I feel more happy. Happy editing --- ᗩvírαm7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 14:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Aviram7:  Done - UtherSRG (talk) 16:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

UtherSRG, Many thanks for about that.Happy editing --- ᗩvírαm7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 16:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Hewdon-Mills' profile

Hewdon-Mills is a Gospel Musician from a British-Ghanaian ancestry. From a west African family of renowned lawyers and academics, he was born Clement Nii Lantei Alloysius Hewdon-Mills.He is a certified Banker and accountant. Hewdon-Mills has an undergraduate degree in Banking and Finance with honours, emerging top of his class, he is a Chartered Banker and a masters degree holder from the University of Ghana. Hewdon-Mills is 41 years old. GODstill (talk) 23:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@GODstill: What does this have to do with me? - UtherSRG (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Peter Kolomiets

Please note that Waterproof fish has started an edit war on Peter Kolomiets page. His edits are identical to Hypeconomist account. There is a very strong suspicion that this is the socks of the globally blocked User:Bodiadub. Король мавп (talk) 11:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

You are claiming that the user desiring to delete the article is a sock of the master of the article's creator. Behaviorally, that doesn't make sense. I've asked a CU to get involved. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

spam by g5 WMF banned user

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Joker_Ukr this WMF globally banned user for UPE and sockpupetting created this spam here: Peter Kolomiets in violation of their block. 77.76.178.52 (talk) 10:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

G5 doesn't apply to articles created before their block. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:52, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@UtherSRG the user was blocked for block evasion - so they have created the page in violation of the block. Here is the primary block in their native wiki: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0:%D0%92%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA/Joker_Ukr and it says: block evasion. 77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Show me where they were blocked before the creation of the article in question. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

They were blocked before Joker Ukr appears to be a sock account and the master (bodiadub) was banned previously that why Joker Ukr was blocked (for block evasion) - that means all the articles created by them are G5 eligible. 77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:16, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Mykyta Nagatkin here is by the way a similar page also nominated and the author was blocked as G5 77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:17, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Please point me to the master's account, and something showing that Joker is a sock of the master, so I can verify they were blocked before the creation of the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I think this ticket will help https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2024042110003959

Here is the Russian wiki log: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:Joker_Ukr

and @Q-bit array blocked this user for the global block evasion. No master is pointed there but it means that Joker Ukr belongs to the previously globally banned user. It's clear from the block logs in Russian and Ukrainian wikipedia and that is why they were blocked globally. 77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

citation:

• 12:45, 21 апреля 2024 Q-bit array обсуждение вклад заблокировал Joker Ukr обсуждение вклад на период бессрочно (запрещена регистрация учётных записей, запрещена отправка писем, не может править свою страницу обсуждения) (обход блокировки: + обход глобальной блокировки)

77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Without a clear link that says Joker is a puppet of a specific master who was blocked before the creation of the article, I can't G5 the article. You can PROD or AFD the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. The page was already AfDed 77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I can confirm that the account Joker Ukr belongs to Bodiadub, who was globally locked many years ago. -- Q-bit array (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Q-bit array thanks! @UtherSRG is the page now eligible for G5 deletion? 77.76.178.52 (talk) 11:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Q-bit array: Thanks, Q. I'll G5 the article and tag the blocked user. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)