EP166 Workload Identity, Zero Trust and SPIFFE (Also Turtles!)

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Guests:

• Evan Gilman, co-founder CEO of Spirl
• Eli Nesterov, co-founder CTO of Spril

Topics: 

Identity and Access Zero Trust

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Topics covered:

• Today we have IAM,  zero trust and security made easy. With that intro, could you give us the 30 second version of what a workload identity is and why people need them? 
• What’s so spiffy about SPIFFE anyway? 
• What’s different between this and micro segmentation of your network–why is one better or worse? 
• You call your book “solving the bottom turtle” could you tell us what that means?
• What are the challenges you’re seeing large organizations run into when adopting this approach at scale? 
• Of all the things a CISO could prioritize, why should this one get added to the list? What makes this, which is so core to our internal security model–ripe for the outside world?
• How people do it now, what gets thrown away when you deploy SPIFFE? Are there alternative?
• SPIFFE is interesting, yet can a startup really “solve for the bottom turtle”? 

Resources:

• SPIFFE  and Spirl
• “Solving the Bottom Turtle” book [PDF, free]
• “Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!” book [also, one of Anton’s faves for years!]
• “Zero Trust Networks” book
• Workload Identity Federation in GCP