A first peek at Opera 15 for Computers

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Hurrah! Hot on the heels of the release of Opera 14 for Android (based on Chromium 26), here's a first peek at our all new Opera for Computers. It's called Opera Next 15 and it's based on Chromium 28 — which means that it comes with Blink on board — but as it's an evergreen browser with a fast release cycle, we don't recommend reading too much into the digits — it's what's in it that counts!

This is a stable build — we've been using it as our main browser for a while now —, but it isn't the final release - you can expect rapid updates in the weeks to come. Note that this Next build is available for Windows and Mac. A Linux version is coming later, but we wanted as many people to have a peek as soon as possible.

So what's new?

First, you'll notice a radically simpler UI that is nicely integrated with the platform. We want your Opera to feel native to your operating system — after all, it's probably the program you use the most apart from your OS.

Just like on Opera 14 for Android, we've merged bookmarks into Speed Dial, which give you a visual overview of your favorite pages. You can now group Speed Dials together into folders, just by dragging one on top of the other — if you want, you can name the folder via a simple right-click.

To add a page or extension to Speed Dial, simply click on the big plus sign. You can also do this while you're browsing, of course: just click the "Add to Speed Dial" icon in the top right corner of the address bar, and the page in question will be added to Speed Dial.

If you have a lot of Speed Dial items, you can click the search icon in the top right corner. Start typing in the field that appears, and your bookmarked sites will be filtered in real-time.

Stash

Do you sometimes find yourself browsing the web, and coming across pages you want to save for later — e.g. a list of favorite gadgets on Amazon, or a selection of hotels on a booking site? This always posed a problem in the past, and many were using their tab bar to hold tabs for later use. With Opera 15, you can Stash a page, and return to it when you have time.

Simply hit the heart icon when you're on a page you like and whenever you want to return to it, open your Stash from the start page (open a new tab or click the Start Page icon to the left of the address field). When a page has already been added to your Stash, the address field icon will be highlighted to reflect that. You can click the highlighted icon to remove the page from your Stash.

To adjust the size of your stashed items, use the slider to the right. If you have a lot of stashed items, you can click the search icon in the top right corner of the Stash page, and just like with Speed Dial, filter your stashed sites in real-time.

Discover

Discover is another new feature to Opera 14 for Android and Opera 15 for Computers, which helps you find interesting content to jump straight into browsing. Click the cog to change settings - select your language and location, and select subjects depending on your interests. For launch there are 13 categories in 32 languages.

Combined address and search field

Opera 15 for Computers has a combined address and search bar, showing suggestions (that can be turned off via Settings > Privacy and Security) and multiple search providers.

Off-road mode

Just because you have a computer rather than a mobile device doesn't mean that you're always on fast wifi; you might be on shared wifi at a coffee shop, or your network might be slow today. Activating Off-Road Mode from the Opera Menu sends pages through Opera's compression servers, reducing the page size significantly by using a smart mix of image compression, SPDY and more. Note that rendering happens on the client side, so JavaScript will work without a problem. Secure (https) pages don't get sent through our proxy.

Mouse gestures

One of Opera's classic features, mouse gestures, let you perform common browsing actions with small, quick mouse movements. Note that on Mac they are by default disabled, since Mac has native support for system touch gestures.

Advanced keyboard shortcuts are also available, but are off by default. To enable them, go to Settings > Browser > Enable advanced keyboard shortcuts. And while your at it, have a look at the other advanced settings on opera:settings.

For developers

Developer tools are available behind a setting (More Tools > Enable developer tools). You'll find there Web Inspector (Opera Dragonfly is not included in this release), the classic View Source option, and a list of installed browser plugins.

Extensions

With Opera switching to Chromium and this complete UI remake, our extensions infrastructure has also undergone a major overhaul: from Opera 15 onward, Opera 11 and 12's extension format is no longer supported (and we've archived its documentation on GitHub), and instead, we've switched to Chromium’s extension model. At this point, Opera 15 supports a subset of the Chromium extension APIs — with more to come — as well as our own Speed Dial API.

If you're a Chromium extensions developer, be sure to submit your extensions to our extensions catalog! Extension developers like Evernote, Feedly, Disconnect, LastPass, WOT, Ghostery, and the very cool cottonTracks have already done this, and you can find their extensions in the catalog.

If you're new to Chromium extension development, we've prepared a number of tutorials and have included relevant API documentation as well. We've also built a conversion utility into the developer interface of our extensions catalog to make the transition from the old to the new format as smooth as possible.

What is not (yet) in Opera 15 for Computers?

Opera 15 doesn't include the M2 mail client. Not all current Opera customers use M2, so to simplify the UI even further and reduce the footprint of the program, we've decided to split it out into a separate product, called Opera Mail. You can get a preview build on the Desktop Team blog.

Other features missing from the first release of Opera based on Chromium will be evaluated and potentially re-instated in future releases.

getUserMedia isn't hooked up yet in Opera 15 and will be come back in a future release. W3C Geolocation is similarly dropped for the time being. It's a feature most used with mobile browsers, hence it's included in Opera 14 for Android. It will of course return in a future release.

The Developer Flags page is also still missing, although select command line flags are available. We plan to bring this back as well in the near future.

Made to discover

There's a lot inside Opera Next 15, with a simple, friendly and attractive user interface. Take a look around; in the settings you can disable cookies, pop-ups, plugins etc on a site-by-site basis, send a Do Not Track header, disable various speed-optimizing enhancements should you choose so. We hope you'll enjoy discovering its features, and maybe build some extensions for it!

Opera 14 for Android is out!

Comments

ugly95 Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:22:57 AM

I don't like the idea of M2 being removed from the browser. I really liked the idea of having it integrated into the browser. To me, the browser is where it makes sense to deal with e-mail. I don't think I would have switched away from webmail interfaces otherwise.

Thomas BeduneauEnwin Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:36:22 AM

Nice Build.

Any information about the Opera Link integration ? I cant find it for now.
Looks like the password manager is the default (chromium) one. I can imagine that the integration of Opera Link could take some time to merge with the chromium base.

Thanks anyway for moving Opera forward !

Николай Подопригораmramor Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:58:36 AM

M2 is a big loss for me. Bring it back, please!

Corey Mwambacoreymwamba Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:59:46 AM

Anticipating the Linux version: but if you want to make it feel native to my OS, then please fix being able to hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. I guess it's small but I'll still hold out hope: http://my.opera.com/coreymwamba/blog/my-major-opera-bug-bear

Pneumatigpneumatyka Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:02:39 AM

I fully agree with woj-tek.

It is some disaster. All my worst dreams come true.
I'm totally destroyed now, and want to die.
I don't understand how all of you can keep smiling all the time. Are you really happy from this obnoxious nightmare? Or you just happy you kept your jobs?

You took away my browser, and now are forcing me to eat chrome.

Damn, this is plain evil.

MichałEmdek Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:26:47 AM

Good job, now Opera has no advantages over other browsers, ripping out M2 is worst decision ever.
So after eight years with Opera I can now switch to almost any other browser, since all look the same...

Christopher Carrcacarr Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:28:44 AM

Originally posted by woj-tek:

First, you'll notice a radically simpler UI that is nicely integrated with the platform.

argh! If I wanted an UI for idiots I would use an browser with such UI! I've installed OperaNext and... well, I see chrome... and simply cant use it! - no option to put tabs on the side - no sidebar - absolutely no option to customize UI/buttons - no link - do you even have bookmarks at all?! - wand doesn't save extra fields (user/pass/save session) - no M2!? - no notes?! - No Personal Information - no MDI - no customized shortcuts/mouse gestures? - no RSS?!?!?! srsly?! De fuq? You've managed to throw away brilliant mobile with this chrome atrocity just to release OM Classic and now you are making the same for the desktop version?!



Opera should listen to woj-tek, because at least dozens of people feel the same way.

;-)

theredgiant Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:36:28 AM

This is a total disaster. Everything that was unique to Opera is now gone. This is just another Chrome. Tell me, why should I use you instead of Chrome?

Opera has just shot themselves in the foot.

I absolutely agree with woj-tek. I want all these features back, and also the following

cached image,
ctrl+click to save images,
blocked content
detailed statusbar stats

Erik HauboldAltarius Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:37:53 AM

if you say, some don't use M2, why don't you build an installer where you can choose to have M2 or not?
right now i have 1 application for mail, rss, brosing notes and sometimes irc (not used often, but when other software fails, opera still start most time so i can get help)

so with the new opera you force me to use 3 or 4 applications? wtf?

FDiskas Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:52:51 AM

where to report errors? 404 https://bugs.opera.com/wizarddesktop/
missing integrated email client, missing rss support.
Almost i missing all features from older Opera.!!! I love them allot.

mmoreno Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:52:58 AM

Opera is totally broken. Who want to use this... whatever, but it's not Opera anymore?
Opera failed in Android and now fail again in computer.

After all, I think separate M2 is a good idea... I can use M2 without the stupid Chrome clone that become Opera.

Bye, bye, Opera.

Erik HauboldAltarius Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:54:29 AM

Originally posted by mmoreno:

After all, I think separate M2 is a good idea... I can use M2 without the stupid Chrome clone that become Opera..



actually.... i haven't thought of this bigsmile

Robin GrolleauRobin-Grolleau Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:00:41 AM

an integrated email client was one of my reasons for choosing opera...

MichałEmdek Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:02:40 AM

Originally posted by mmoreno:

After all, I think separate M2 is a good idea... I can use M2 without the stupid Chrome clone that become Opera.


Haha, good one. :-)

Morphdreamer Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:28:55 AM

Can't select text within link. I thought it was supposed to work?

https://twitter.com/brucel/status/316568433108062209

netwolf Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:45:35 AM

Not all current Opera customers use M2, so to simplify the UI even further and reduce the footprint of the program, we've decided to split it out into a separate product, called Opera Mail.


Wow,that's what I call ridiculous.
I mean, WTF?! I don't use the the AltGr key on my keyboard every day either, so why not rip it out of the keyboard. Would also make my entire keyboard look much cleaner...

You do know that the UI impact of M2 for a user who doesn't use it is almost non existing, don't you?
And I guess you also know that in the year 2013, a few more MB for the installer and/or the installation do so not at all matter?

Opera, oh Opera, where have you gone... cry

szotsaki2 Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:54:34 AM

Waiting eagerly for the Linux version.

Edit: you say I won't be able to remove the buttons from the interface and put status bar next to the address bar and place the tabs to the left side?

Now, I'm not that eager...

Sam Van den VonderHuRRaCaNe Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:16:59 AM

After reading all the negative comments; it's time for something positive because you're all wrong.

Opera is clearly focussing on making a good, fast browser that looks really good and is very functional. Speed dial 'folders' are brilliant and stashes are brilliant. The other features were in Opera already, but I'm sure they've been improved or are going to be improved.

Removing M2 is sad, because I do use it for RSS feeds, but I'm sure I can replace it with some web-based tool. I'm not sure people are going to install M2 as a separate product, since they would've used Microsoft Outlook or Thunderbird (which Mozilla doesn't support anymore, so Opera shouldn't start developing their own, because it'll undergo the same fate as Thunderbird).

In any case, it's looking good so far! It'd be great if you could install extensions from other sources too (which I'm sure you'll be able to do)

Good job! smile

EDIT: What I don't seem to like is that you cannot seem to customize the interface like you could in Opera 12 (and actually a lot of versions before that). It'd be a real shame if you couldn't plop down buttons wherever you please, and make buttons that do what you want. Also the settings page needs at least as many settings as the old one did. The old opera:config page needs to return in one way or another.

In any case, I hope these things are all planned before the final version is released.

Cqoicebordel Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:20:43 AM

I understand the choices you made.
You separated M2 because it's still Presto based, and a lot more than a simple browser UI to port (or recreate). (And please, don't say it's to have a lighter Opera. If it's UI wise, M2 didn't change a thing for a typical user before, and if it's MB wise, the installer was 13MB before vs. 26MB now...)
You recreated Opera UI from scratch so you had to do simple things first.

But I'm weeping.
Technical reasons are not good reasons. You can't say "It's too difficult so we won't do it".
If you expect to have the same customers (ie the tech savvy), you can't dumb down your product.

I still have high hopes for you guys. I loved Opera because users were treated as equals. You still can go that road. But it seems less likely from this preview.

I won't stay with Opera if you talk to me like I'm an idiot.

artmil Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:24:25 AM

Originally posted by woj-tek:

First, you'll notice a radically simpler UI that is nicely integrated with the platform.

argh! If I wanted an UI for idiots I would use an browser with such UI! I've installed OperaNext and... well, I see chrome... and simply cant use it! - no option to put tabs on the side - no sidebar - absolutely no option to customize UI/buttons - no link - do you even have bookmarks at all?! - wand doesn't save extra fields (user/pass/save session) - no M2!? - no notes?! - No Personal Information - no MDI - no customized shortcuts/mouse gestures? - no RSS?!?!?! srsly?! De fuq? You've managed to throw away brilliant mobile with this chrome atrocity just to release OM Classic and now you are making the same for the desktop version?!



Yea its a f**** joke... but not a funny one... The only good thing about this thing is that it wont start at all at my main machine so i won't get angry...


after all, it's probably the program you use the most apart from your OS.


Exactly... and do you really think that pissing off the majority(every of those futures had some % of users using it) of your userbase, giving them a browser striped from everything what makes opera attractive and giving them a damn chrome clone with some discovery s**t instead is a good decision?

I guarantee that it won't go as smooth as with the mobile version...

Just a reminder Netscape tried to do a similar thing in version 7 or 8 and that was the end off it...

If you want to destroy the browser fine, it your choice... Opensoure the old opera and let the community at least try to develop it in the direction they want.

Patrick O'Reillypaddy2k Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:41:32 AM

Ctrl+U does not bring up the "classic View Source", Opera's view source mode allowed developers modify the source of the page reload it, which was great for quickly debugging problems.

denyerec Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:58:35 AM

Re-integrate M2, or allow users to download one with and one without.
I'm certain that this is just a stipped-out "Alpha preview", but just in case:

- UI customisation, Tabs on the side
- Rocker gestures
- M2
- RSS
- IRC
- Torrent support
- Tab groups
- Dev tools that don't suck like Chrome's wink
- f4 for widgets
- .. all the other features from 12.15 you appear to have decided we don't want!

If we wanted a stripped down, streamlined browser we'd already be using Chrome. We're using Opera because we WANT all those features!

ts1 Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:14:33 AM

New speed dial is great, but I need:

- side panel
- custom buttons
- custom toolbars
- editable source code
- notes
- integrated feeds
- user js
- user css
- local storage
- sessions
- Site-specific preferences
- Tab Stacking

Please, don't kill our beloved Opera ;-)

girlax Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:20:46 AM

Very sad.
I loved you, Opera, for 12 years, and now you are gone...
R.I.P. Opera

smithyyy Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:22:37 AM

I cant resize my Browser around > 490px. Really bad for quick Testing some Responsive Layouts @320px...

Dont remove Opera Mail/RSS...

DraxDriwars Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:25:10 AM

That is the reason why we all enjoyed the opera ceased to exist. Opera was the only browser not like the others, having such opportunities that did not exist and no one has ever before. The rich customization, Native RSS client would not hinder open pages, the seat always at hand. Conveniently band scale, I returned to a place in any version unoffitsialopera.
Combining this with chrome worse betrayal. This is the destruction of all the ideals of opera. Chrome is the worst of all possible browser. Better to Use an older version of IE than them. I understand that ugatsya in innovations for chromium is not possible, but the power oprery quite different. Those who enjoy opera, this race is not important and does not need the convenience of which it is achieved in chrome by any means.
Opera NEXT 12.15 on forever in my heart.
The bastard must die!

h143570 Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:31:21 AM

Without an rss (and email) client Opera simply became useless to me. Well the links panel might have some merit, if it ever gets implemented.

Since M2 was an optional component of the panel. Please explain me how it is an ui simplification?

Mağruf ÇolakoğluZAHEK Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:33:06 AM

Thanks for a great build first.
One problem I have noticed now; Opera crashes when you press Space bar. Here is my report. DNA-5920

Pedro CostaMetalFatigue Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:50:21 AM

Question:

Will we be able to install extensions from other markets, like the chrome store, on the final version?

truthbearer Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:17:02 AM

Originally posted by woj-tek:

First, you'll notice a radically simpler UI that is nicely integrated with the platform.



argh!
If I wanted an UI for idiots I would use an browser with such UI! I've installed OperaNext and... well, I see chrome... and simply cant use it!
- no option to put tabs on the side
- no sidebar
- absolutely no option to customize UI/buttons
- no link
- do you even have bookmarks at all?!
- wand doesn't save extra fields (user/pass/save session)
- no M2!?
- no notes?!
- No Personal Information
- no MDI
- no customized shortcuts/mouse gestures?
- no RSS?!?!?!

srsly?! De fuq? You've managed to throw away brilliant mobile with this chrome atrocity just to release OM Classic and now you are making the same for the desktop version?!

nothing more to say... down will still be using my favourite browser oepra, but definitly not opera 15

Jason Playneboxie Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:26:27 AM

So - Mail moved to it's own app? awesome - maybe it will receive a lot more developer love now and turn it into the mail client that it can be.

Good first "Next" build guys! keep the feature porting flowing!

My Initial Input - Can tabs behave like they always have? i.e.
* Most Recently Used
* Tab Groups
* Tab Cycle Dialog
* Pull a tab off into a new window
etc etc

Good luck with your engineering efforts and here's to all the features we know and love making an appearance in a Next build sometime soon! party

p.s. when are the linux builds going to make an appearance?

Asshiah Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:46:07 AM

I think opera moving to blink is a good thing as it means more time to spend on developing and improving the browser in itself, the ergonomy, the UI, etc. It will also fasten the improving of the renderer if Google and Opera can work together in it.

I like the new speed dial.

But as you would suppose, i miss a lot of former features:
M2 can't be separated from the browser or it means nothing (I would use thunderbird otherwise)
tabs on the side
add custom buttons on toolbar
dragonfly
tab groups
rss
torrents
irc
link

I am sure you will get these in as soon as possible and I look forward to it.

In the meantime, I just can't use this new version.

d4rkn1ght Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:53:26 AM

Just like almost everyone here. Separating M2 from Opera is just wrong. yuck

FransFrenzie Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:57:03 AM

On topic: I didn't want to bother testing in Wine and Windows 7 wasn't being very cooperative, so I'll be waiting for a Linux build.

Originally posted by Sam Van den Vonder:

Removing M2 is sad, because I do use it for RSS feeds, but I'm sure I can replace it with some web-based tool.


Off topic, but you could look into http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/tiny-tiny-rss-ubuntu-ppa-google-reader.html

NicolasNickko Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:57:56 AM

I agree woj-teck http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/show.dml/63115172#comment108193742
Why continuig to use Opera if it's like Other browser ?

I use Opera for sidebar, M2 intégration, note, etc.
Wand it's also a awesome feature...

And without hi customisation possibility Opera is a IE or a Firefox like...

But, "Calepin" it's a good new feature.

Olivierolivir Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:00:49 PM

Why not reintegrate M2 but with a separate process ?

Nethan Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:15:39 PM

I hope that Opera 15 is more like a proof of concept (the integration of Webkit/Blink) than the peek of the new paradigm for all future versions.

Indeed, Opera is great because he offers good features out-of-the-box. I appreciate the sidepanels with the Notes features, the customization possibilities, etc... And I thought that integrate a new engine would make the dev effort into fighting bugs and improving the UI.

While I can understand the separation of M2 and Opera, I didn't expect to see you castrating the UI too, and so removing most of the features in the process... You are right on the fact that the browser is the program I use the most apart from the OS, but it didn't mean that the browser UI should be compliant with the OS !!!
It should be compliant with ME and me alone (or customizable enough to let me correct it, like Opera 12). Programming a software according to the OS way is the biggest error I see in an increasing number of programs today... Is the OS the most important thing to care, or the user ?

Now, I wonder what are the differences between Chrome and Opera, apart the fact that the last one is partially flawed as he can't accept all Chrome extensions for the moment ? It will be better to install Chrome then...

I guess I will stay on Opera 12 for a moment, as Firefox is going too to restrict more than ever the UI customization while still lacking features... And I hate Chrome who eat too much the computer...

devloop Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:21:06 PM

Bring back the "websites preferences" feature or I kill the dog chef

cry

girlax Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:22:47 PM

Are you ever think WHY people use Opera on desktops AT ALL?
And WHO are them?
Look - IE, FF, Safari, Chrome - 4! simple, user-friendly, fast, and more and more bla-bla-bla browsers.
And companies with billions $$$ and HUGE infrastructure behind them.
NO CHANCE, ZERO for Opera
But, whait...
You have ~1-2%
Just miracle?
Yes, becase you can have all 5% but step-by-step commiting suicide.
I tell about 5% of users WHO ARE NOT COMMON users.
Your users!
Common 95% of users already has IE or FF or Safari or Chrome.
They don't need not one of dozens custom browsers nor Opera.
And you never get them!
NEVER!
May be you, guys, think, that some of common 95% of users will choose Opera because it HASN'T bookmarks? up
Nice plan, just try tell them that you are exists before you are gone.
Your users is the 5% of not common users.
That is why you are just exists on desktops when world have IE, FF, Chrome and Safari.
And your users - people who don't need SIMPLE UI for dummies and TOTALLY DISLIKE this way.
We are not retards, Opera!
Yes, not ALL of us use M2.
Or RSS
Or MDI
Or notes
Or sidebar
Or...
And none of this features is Opera killer-feature.
Opera has(had sad ) only ONE killer-feature - POSSIBILITY of CHOISE from the list of this brilliant features.
And all this things TOGETHER is Opera.
Because some of us install Opera for M2
Some for RSS
Some for MDI
Some for sidebar
Some for separate pair of address and search fields
Some for button of closed pages
....
But nobody install Opera because look for SIMPLE UI.
You just shot off both your legs.
rip

Andrea4ndrea Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:24:51 PM

Originally posted by ugly95:

I don't like the idea of M2 being removed from the browser. I really liked the idea of having it integrated into the browser. To me, the browser is where it makes sense to deal with e-mail. I don't think I would have switched away from webmail interfaces otherwise.



+1!

Delzur Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:25:06 PM

I will keep my browser at 12.15. I liked to have my mail on my browser (because it seems natural), the side-bar system, the download manager.. I also used IRC, RSS, notes and others.
Depending on the next releases, I will upgrade if Opera's functionalities comes back or uninstall and search a new browser.

Opera is a good product, which brings many valuable things compared to chrome/fx/safari and all. Why did you decided to change that ? Hoping to have good news on the future.

Thomas vFRaven Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:27:27 PM

I don't want to repeat myself from the desktop team blog (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/opera-next-15-0-released?startidx=200#comments), but want to re-iterate one point: An integrated mail client (M2) was _the_ unique selling point of Opera. Removing it will cost you many of your most loyal users. Just read almost all of the comments you get for this release!

I've been an Opera user since version 4 - but have looked at Firefox to replace Opera if it is broken.

One idea: can't M2 be made into an extension (by Opera Software itself)?

HomiSite Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:38:55 PM

I really, really hope that this Opera Next 15 release is only a technical cornerstone! Opera itself seems now quite fast (incl. program start), but besides that it is only a bare-bones conception of a modern browser.

Almost every feature I like and use daily in Opera is are gone! cry And this statement sounds more like cynicism:

Originally posted by brucelawson:

There's a lot inside Opera Next 15, with a simple, friendly and attractive user interface.


Especially when the following statement doesn't reassure me that a lot of Opera's classic must-have features will come back:

Originally posted by brucelawson:

Other features missing from the first release of Opera based on Chromium will be evaluated and potentially re-instated in future releases.


I don't need to go deeper into details as other users already did this. And: I am not against change and new concepts, but the user need to have the choice or far more options for customization!

PS: With the new engine I can't use gdipp anymore with Opera and have to bear the ugly text rendering. :-(

PPS: I am a M2 user, too, so I hope Opera Mail will get more integrated/combined with the browser.

PPPS: WTF?! => "we've merged bookmarks into Speed Dial"

Thomas Scholztoscho Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:42:32 PM

We want your Opera to feel native to your operating system — after all, it's probably the program you use the most apart from your OS.



http://i.imgur.com/65tQnQ6.png -

Win 7, simplified UI. Guess which program doesn’t respect the system UI? sad

Will the final version be accessible for keyboard users? Separate access to links and form controls, spatial navigation, custom keyboard shortcuts?

T-oastbro-T Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:50:35 PM

repost from the desktop-blog:

The sidebar for the bookmarks is the ONE reason I've stayed with Opera. I also liked all the customization options it used to offer, i.e. the tab-closing-behaviour. This one-size-fits-all-approach is an abomination. Even if all the features will re-appear over time, you really shouldn't have shown this to anybody. Not without commenting on which of the features will make a comeback and which won't. Until yesterday, you had a bunch of worried users who speculated about the direction Opera might take. Today, you have speculating users who are really angry because their worries seemed justified and they don't know if their favourite features are gone for good or just temporarily absent!

Thiago H. de Paula FigueiredoThiagoHP Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:10:01 PM

Please bring back M2 integrated with Opera, even if we need to use a different installer. That's one of the main reasons I love Opera: all my Web stuff in a single place. This "Not all current Opera customers use M2, so to simplify the UI even further" argument doesn't convince me at all. In 12.5, when you have a fresh install, the only M2 UI is the "mail and chat accounts" and the "mail" menu items (which could be merged into one anyway). If that's just a matter of footprint, provide one version with and one without M2.

In addition, the huge UI customizability of Opera was always a huge selling point. Don't lose it, or you'll end up losing users.

I thought Opera would just change the rendering engine (which was getting behind) and leave the rest (that was always best of class) unchanged. As a huge Opera fan, I hope I'm not wrong.

tosbsas Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:54:55 PM

bookmarks - where do I find them? Still not there? Importer does not work here

mmoreno Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:20:29 PM

Originally posted by denyerec:

If we wanted a stripped down, streamlined browser we'd already be using Chrome. We're using Opera because we WANT all those features!



Well, Opera alway implemented some features first... ehm... now Opera is the first browser that DO NOT implement features.

"Opera, the first browser without bookmarks!"

Yes, a joke... he, he... *sad*


*crying in a corner*

tormenthor Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:40:28 PM

Goodbye Opera.

ClashCityRockerclashcityrocker Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:59:54 PM

I am happy. I recently moved to Chrome, as Opera 12 was poor, and I couldn't bear it no more. Coming back to Opera 15 is great.

Most of the Opera goodness is already here, some is coming soon. I'm a reasonable person, and it was quite clear Opera has accumulated ALOT of baggage over the years. Opera 15 feels fast and clean.

I just want Opera-link (one that works, not the poor excuse that Opera 12 had), and a RSS panel. My perfect browser will be back swinging.

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