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From: Jeff Doozan <jeff@tc...>
 New plugin allows users to define macros
2001-03-31 14:46
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I just checked in some preliminary code for a plugin that will let
users define simple macros, and bind them to accelerator keys
and (eventually) menus.
Right now the only commands supported are:
open - opens a url in the current window
opennew - opens a url in a new window
openbg - opens a url in a new background window
¯o - calls a macro defined earlier in the file
the macros are stored in macros.cfg in the profile directory...the file
looks something like this
# macros.cfg
slashdot {
# Menu = "&Slashdot"
# "Menu =" is not implemented yet, but eventually it will be
# the string diplayed in the menu
open(www.slashdot.org)
}
comics {
openbg(http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?mode=classic)
openbg(http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/getfuzzy/)
openbg(http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/robotman/)
}
morningroutine {
&slashdot
&comics
}
# The Amazing Netscape Fishcam
fishcam {
open(http://home.netscape.com/fishcam/fishcam.html)
}
## End macros.cfg
Every morning, I like to read a few comics and read the tech news
on slashdot. In accel.cfg, I have the following definitons:
CTRL ALT F = kmeleon_macros.dll(fishcam)
VK_F12 = kmeleon_macros.dll(morningroutine)
ALT S = kmeleon_macros.dll(slashdot)
In the mornig, I now just press F12, et voila, slashdot is loaded into
the current window, and my comics are loaded and waiting for me
in background windows.
I think this would be better implemented as part of kmeleon, rather
than a plugin, since this would allow access to more commands,
like calling other plugins so you could load a page and make it
fullscreen. Until it gains a bit of acceptance, and begins to grow
beyond what a plugin is capable of doing, however, I am happy to
leave it as a plugin.
Let me know what you think, and what additional commands you
would like supported.
-- Jeff
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From: Zach Malmgren <zs-malmgren@wi...>
Re: New plugin allows users to define macros
2001-03-31 15:26
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sounds like a nice new feature.
At 05:46 PM 3/31/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I just checked in some preliminary code for a plugin that will let
>users define simple macros, and bind them to accelerator keys
>and (eventually) menus.
>
>Right now the only commands supported are:
> open - opens a url in the current window
> opennew - opens a url in a new window
> openbg - opens a url in a new background window
> ¯o - calls a macro defined earlier in the file
>
>the macros are stored in macros.cfg in the profile directory...the file
>looks something like this
>
># macros.cfg
>
>slashdot {
># Menu = "&Slashdot"
># "Menu =" is not implemented yet, but eventually it will be
># the string diplayed in the menu
> open(www.slashdot.org)
>}
>comics {
> openbg(http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?mode=classic)
> openbg(http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/getfuzzy/)
> openbg(http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/robotman/)
>}
>morningroutine {
> &slashdot
> &comics
>}
># The Amazing Netscape Fishcam
>fishcam {
> open(http://home.netscape.com/fishcam/fishcam.html)
>}
>
>## End macros.cfg
>
>Every morning, I like to read a few comics and read the tech news
>on slashdot. In accel.cfg, I have the following definitons:
>
>CTRL ALT F = kmeleon_macros.dll(fishcam)
>VK_F12 = kmeleon_macros.dll(morningroutine)
>ALT S = kmeleon_macros.dll(slashdot)
>
>In the mornig, I now just press F12, et voila, slashdot is loaded into
>the current window, and my comics are loaded and waiting for me
>in background windows.
>
>I think this would be better implemented as part of kmeleon, rather
>than a plugin, since this would allow access to more commands,
>like calling other plugins so you could load a page and make it
>fullscreen. Until it gains a bit of acceptance, and begins to grow
>beyond what a plugin is capable of doing, however, I am happy to
>leave it as a plugin.
>
>Let me know what you think, and what additional commands you
>would like supported.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>_______________________________________________
>Kmeleon-dev mailing list
>Kmeleon-dev@li...
>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmeleon-dev
.-=
I'm a 21st century digital boy
I don't know how to live,
But I've got a lot of toys.
----------------------------------------
Email: zs-malmgren@wi... ICQ: 45272983
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From: Brian (BinaryC) <binaryc@te...>
Re: New plugin allows users to define macros
2001-03-31 20:45
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I would like to have your children
At 02:46 PM 3/31/01, you wrote:
>I just checked in some preliminary code for a plugin that will let
>users define simple macros, and bind them to accelerator keys
>and (eventually) menus.
>
>Right now the only commands supported are:
> open - opens a url in the current window
> opennew - opens a url in a new window
> openbg - opens a url in a new background window
> ¯o - calls a macro defined earlier in the file
>
>the macros are stored in macros.cfg in the profile directory...the file
>looks something like this
>
># macros.cfg
>
>slashdot {
># Menu = "&Slashdot"
># "Menu =" is not implemented yet, but eventually it will be
># the string diplayed in the menu
> open(www.slashdot.org)
>}
>comics {
> openbg(http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?mode=classic)
> openbg(http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/getfuzzy/)
> openbg(http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/robotman/)
>}
>morningroutine {
> &slashdot
> &comics
>}
># The Amazing Netscape Fishcam
>fishcam {
> open(http://home.netscape.com/fishcam/fishcam.html)
>}
>
>## End macros.cfg
>
>Every morning, I like to read a few comics and read the tech news
>on slashdot. In accel.cfg, I have the following definitons:
>
>CTRL ALT F = kmeleon_macros.dll(fishcam)
>VK_F12 = kmeleon_macros.dll(morningroutine)
>ALT S = kmeleon_macros.dll(slashdot)
>
>In the mornig, I now just press F12, et voila, slashdot is loaded into
>the current window, and my comics are loaded and waiting for me
>in background windows.
>
>I think this would be better implemented as part of kmeleon, rather
>than a plugin, since this would allow access to more commands,
>like calling other plugins so you could load a page and make it
>fullscreen. Until it gains a bit of acceptance, and begins to grow
>beyond what a plugin is capable of doing, however, I am happy to
>leave it as a plugin.
>
>Let me know what you think, and what additional commands you
>would like supported.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>_______________________________________________
>Kmeleon-dev mailing list
>Kmeleon-dev@li...
>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmeleon-dev
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From: <biswapesh@bt...>.com
Today's nightly
2001-03-28 00:55
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1.9 crashes with today's nightly - BC problem ? Looks like an interface
change - here's the stack trace:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
State Dump for Thread Id 0x118
eax=008d7f94 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=0012fe4c esi=0012fe60
edi=00ec5fcc
eip=60e08d77 esp=0012fe24 ebp=0012fe44 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe
nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000
efl=00000202
function: nsQueryInterface::operator()
60e08d62 56 push esi
60e08d63 8bf1 mov esi,ecx
60e08d65 8b4604 mov eax,[esi+0x4]
ds:0103e866=????????
60e08d68 85c0 test eax,eax
60e08d6a 740f jz nsQueryInterface::operator()+0x19
(60e08d7b)
60e08d6c ff74240c push dword ptr [esp+0xc]
ss:0103e82b=????????
60e08d70 8b08 mov ecx,[eax]
ds:008d7f94=00000000
60e08d72 ff74240c push dword ptr [esp+0xc]
ss:0103e82b=????????
60e08d76 50 push eax
FAULT ->60e08d77 ff11 call dword ptr [ecx]
ds:00000000=????????
60e08d79 eb05 jmp nsQueryInterface::operator()+0x1e
(60e08d80)
60e08d7b b803400080 mov eax,0x80004003
60e08d80 8b4e08 mov ecx,[esi+0x8]
ds:0103e866=????????
60e08d83 5e pop esi
60e08d84 85c9 test ecx,ecx
60e08d86 7402 jz nsQueryInterface::operator()+0x28
(60e08d8a)
60e08d88 8901 mov [ecx],eax
ds:00000000=????????
60e08d8a c20800 ret 0x8
*----> Stack Back Trace <----*
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
0012fe30 60e08dd3 60e39f38 0012fe4c 00ec5fc0 0012fe78
xpcom!nsQueryInterface::operator() (FPO: [2,0,1])
0012fe44 60e131b4 0012fe60 60e39f38 008d7500 008d7ed0
xpcom!nsCOMPtr_base::assign_from_helper
0012fe78 60e09d6c 00ec5fc0 008d7f94 0012ffc0 00408617
xpcom!NS_NewObserverList
0012fe88 00408617 00853210 008d7f94 00ec5fc0 008d7ed0
xpcom!NS_NewObserverService
------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Biswa.
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From: <biswapesh@bt...>.com
RE: FW: Congratulations on your inclusion in the Ro
cket Download Arch ive!
2001-03-28 00:43
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Looks like they tested 0.2 or 0.3 without the patches, since they reported
that cookies and javascript don't work :-( Maybe someone could have tested
the version in CVS, no ?
Talking about CVS, any plans of another release anytime soon (once the
nightlies stabilize of course, no point releasing on 0.8.1 base, it doesn't
have the goodies like libpr0n and the new cache IMO)
- Biswa.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zach Malmgren [mailto:zs-malmgren@wi...]
> Sent: 27 March 2001 23:56
> To: kmeleon-dev@li...
> Subject: Re: [Kmeleon-dev] FW: Congratulations on your
> inclusion in the
> Rocket Download Arch ive!
>
>
> is this a good thing?
>
> At 12:52 PM 3/27/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Marie Finch
> >To: christophe@nu...
> >Sent: 3/27/01 12:41 PM
> >Subject: Congratulations on your inclusion in the Rocket
> Download Archive!
> >
> >Kmeleon.org
> >christophe@nu...
> >
> >
> >This message is to inform you that K-Meleon has been selected for
> >inclusion
> >in the Rocket Download Archive. From more than one hundred
> choices each
> >day
> >our review staff picks the top few programs to install,
> test, review and
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Kmeleon-dev@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmeleon-dev
>
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From: Christophe Thibault <Christophe@sp...>
FW: Congratulations on your inclusion in the Rocket
Download Arch ive!
2001-03-27 12:53
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marie Finch
To: christophe@nu...
Sent: 3/27/01 12:41 PM
Subject: Congratulations on your inclusion in the Rocket Download Archive!
Kmeleon.org
christophe@nu...
This message is to inform you that K-Meleon has been selected for
inclusion
in the Rocket Download Archive. From more than one hundred choices each
day
our review staff picks the top few programs to install, test, review and
recommend to our users for download. You can read our review of your
product
here: http://www.rocketdownload.com/Details/Inte/kmeleon.htm
Congratulations
on your product's selection!
As part of our service to users and developers we provide a link from
every
program's review to the developer's web site. We suggest that a
reciprocal
link to the review on our site would be a great tool for you to use to
promote your software. An independent third party analysis of your
program
lends an added sense of legitimacy to it and will make it more
attractive to
users for download and registration. While links can focus on the
program's
rating in the review it is recommended that the focus of the link be on
the
fact that the program was reviewed by the Rocket Download staff and
selected
for inclusion in the archive. Your program's selection to be included in
our
archive says that it is well planned, well-implemented, high quality
software regardless of the rating it received. Links can be simple text
links or graphical. If you would like to add a graphical link and want
images to use you can find them by following this link:
http://www.rocketdownload.com/linktous.htm In certain cases we can
provide
them in sizes and colors customized for your site.
As a valued developer, we want to ensure that your users receive the
latest
versions of your software. If you e-mail us at
updates@ro...,
we'll be sure to replace the old file or link as soon as possible.
Our review staff tries its best to review programs consistently and
accurately. Sometimes though we miss some outstanding feature of a
program
or fail to highlight some functionality that you as the developer think
is
important. To address this we provide developers the opportunity to post
comments about their programs alongside our review. From the review you
will
find a link to a developer comment form or you can access the form by
following this link:
http://www.rocketdownload.com/cgi-bin/dvlcform.asp?prgtitle=K-Meleon
If you fill this out we will post your comments about your software
along
with our review. In this way you can point out features and or strong
points
of your program that you think we missed. Please do not use this
facility as
a forum to debate your program's review with our staff. Developer
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posted.
Once again, congratulations on your inclusion in the Rocket Download
Archive!
Sincerely,
Marie Finch
mfinch@ro...
Rocket Download
http://www.rocketdownload.com
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From: Zach Malmgren <zs-malmgren@wi...>
Re: FW: Congratulations on your inclusion in the
Rocket Download Arch ive!
2001-03-27 14:44
|
is this a good thing?
At 12:52 PM 3/27/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marie Finch
>To: christophe@nu...
>Sent: 3/27/01 12:41 PM
>Subject: Congratulations on your inclusion in the Rocket Download Archive!
>
>Kmeleon.org
>christophe@nu...
>
>
>This message is to inform you that K-Meleon has been selected for
>inclusion
>in the Rocket Download Archive. From more than one hundred choices each
>day
>our review staff picks the top few programs to install, test, review and
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From: Jeff Doozan <jeff@tc...>
Re: Good news
2001-03-27 15:27
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> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71014
looks like it's only half a fix...arrow keys work until you actually use
a form, then they're broken again....at least they're starting to work
on it.
> now the only other really major bug depending on mozilla is the unknown
> file type (download) box right?
Pretty much...mozilla still crashes when trying to view certain
pages, especially non-HTML pages (like ToDo.txt on kmeleon.org),
and the listener interfaces are far from complete. Copy/paste
seems to be working pretty well now. Printing sucks...but it only
landed yesterday, so we'll give them some time to fix it up a bit.
-- Jeff
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From: <biswapesh@bt...>.com
RE: Paint problem [ More bugs]
2001-03-27 04:34
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Jeff
You can look at this one to start with.
- Biswa.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 26 March 2001 14:47
> To: kmeleon-dev@li...
> Subject: [Kmeleon-dev] Paint problem
>
>
> Hmm , there is a paint block invalidation problem. Go here:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1240000/1240626.stm
>
> Scroll down - at the bottom there is a big drop down list.
> Click on it and
> close it. The area that should be invalidated by the event never gets
> repainted (resizing, selection, etc. will get it back to
> normal of course).
> Seems to be a generic problem since I got it at teh
> linuxtoday site too.
> Also, not a Mozilla bug since the same sites work fine with
> the same nightly
> I'm using K-Meleon with.
>
> - Biswa.
>
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From: tma <ayatu@gm...>
Re: I need more bugs :)
2001-03-27 03:57
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> Oops, I've run out of bugs to fix.
>
> Since Sebastian has been away, the ToDo list hasn't been mirrored
> to kmeleon.org (does anyone else have access to kmeleon.org),
> the latest list is, of course, available via cvs...or you can just close
> your eyes and imagine that the section that says "Bugs" and
> always had a bunch of things liste doesn't have any more entries :).
>
> I certainly won't claim to have fixed all the bugs in kmeleon, but
> since I've exhaused the listed bugs (and anything I could find
> discussed in the forums), I need you guys to find some new bugs
> for me to squash.
>
> I've uploaded a newer kmeleon_partial.zip for you to play with:
>
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/Contrib/binaries/kmeleon_parti
al.zip?rev=1.9&content-type=zip/x-zip&cvsroot=kmeleon
>
> this doesn't seem to like the newly released .8.1 embed build, so
> be sure you use the latest nightly instead...the new libpr0n seems
> to be having a few problems, most images have black bars across
> them until the window is repainted...hopefully this will be fixed soon.
>
> Let me know what you think, what (non-mozilla) bugs you can find,
> and what features you'd really like to see.
Hmm, I got this problem when closing K-Meleon it crashes here. I deleted all
stuff in ApplicatioData of my own NT-Profile-Dir and also the K-Meleon-dir.
My K-Meleon-dir is just the latest k-meleon-full.zip + -partial.zip +
nightly embed-win32.zip.
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From: tma <ayatu@gm...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 22:46
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> >If you're on an NT-box you could give LiteStep a try, I use it all the
> time
> >at work and it gives you soooooo many possibilities to customize the
> >behaviour of your windows-session and obviously can be used to produce
> some
> >eye-candy X-Window-windowmanager-alike interface like I as an *nixer
> since
> >1995 do.
>
> Hmm, 2K box, haven't played with Litestep for quite a while. Probably
> worth
> having a look at.
>
If you wish I can send you my litestep-config with the lastest build and
custom-made theme-switching between 7 made-to-work themes. I can help you
with it, so that you can go back to Explorer everytime you like or also get
asked Explorer or LiteStep or UnrealTournament when logging in. Setting
games as shells is quite cool as they are then the only running task except
autostart-links and run-entries in the registry.
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From: <biswapesh@bt...>.com
Mem use
2001-03-26 05:55
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With today's nightly and 1.8 on NT 4 (256 MB RAM), all using about:blank as
start page:
IE: 8 MB (probably not an accurate picture because of shared DLLs)
KMeleon: 11 MB
Mozilla: 15.4 MB
Pretty good, I'd say !
- Biswa.
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From: Zach Malmgren <zs-malmgren@wi...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 14:58
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I think KMeleon will become a real competitor when it takes less memory
than IE does..
At 02:54 PM 3/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>With today's nightly and 1.8 on NT 4 (256 MB RAM), all using about:blank as
>start page:
>
>IE: 8 MB (probably not an accurate picture because of shared DLLs)
>KMeleon: 11 MB
>Mozilla: 15.4 MB
>
>Pretty good, I'd say !
>
>- Biswa.
>
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I'm a 21st century digital boy
I don't know how to live,
But I've got a lot of toys.
----------------------------------------
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From: Jeff Doozan <jeff@tc...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 16:51
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> I think KMeleon will become a real competitor when it takes less memory
> than IE does..
>
> At 02:54 PM 3/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> >With today's nightly and 1.8 on NT 4 (256 MB RAM), all using about:blank as
> >start page:
> >
> >IE: 8 MB (probably not an accurate picture because of shared DLLs)
> >KMeleon: 11 MB
> >Mozilla: 15.4 MB
> >
> >Pretty good, I'd say !
> >
> >- Biswa.
The IE memory usage isn't really accurate, since IE preloads most
of its interface/bloat with windows.
-- Jeff
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From: Zach Malmgren <zs-malmgren@wi...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 17:24
|
true in reality IE probably takes ~30megs since half of what is it uses is
part of the OS.. I'm just saying I think a strong "selling" point for
KMeleon would be if when looked at in task manager it took up less memory
than even IE.. that would convince people to switch.. -Z
At 07:51 PM 3/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > I think KMeleon will become a real competitor when it takes less memory
> > than IE does..
> >
> > At 02:54 PM 3/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > >With today's nightly and 1.8 on NT 4 (256 MB RAM), all using
> about:blank as
> > >start page:
> > >
> > >IE: 8 MB (probably not an accurate picture because of shared DLLs)
> > >KMeleon: 11 MB
> > >Mozilla: 15.4 MB
> > >
> > >Pretty good, I'd say !
> > >
> > >- Biswa.
>
>
>The IE memory usage isn't really accurate, since IE preloads most
>of its interface/bloat with windows.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>_______________________________________________
>Kmeleon-dev mailing list
>Kmeleon-dev@li...
>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmeleon-dev
.-=
I'm a 21st century digital boy
I don't know how to live,
But I've got a lot of toys.
----------------------------------------
Email: zs-malmgren@wi... ICQ: 45272983
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From: Brian (BinaryC) <binaryc@te...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 17:39
|
we can load up all our dlls and stuff in a secret thread that's not shown
in task manager, then it will look like kmeleon is only using 300k!
At 05:36 PM 3/26/01, you wrote:
>true in reality IE probably takes ~30megs since half of what is it uses is
>part of the OS.. I'm just saying I think a strong "selling" point for
>KMeleon would be if when looked at in task manager it took up less memory
>than even IE.. that would convince people to switch.. -Z
>
>At 07:51 PM 3/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>> > I think KMeleon will become a real competitor when it takes less memory
>> > than IE does..
>> >
>> > At 02:54 PM 3/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>> > >With today's nightly and 1.8 on NT 4 (256 MB RAM), all using
>> about:blank as
>> > >start page:
>> > >
>> > >IE: 8 MB (probably not an accurate picture because of shared DLLs)
>> > >KMeleon: 11 MB
>> > >Mozilla: 15.4 MB
>> > >
>> > >Pretty good, I'd say !
>> > >
>> > >- Biswa.
>>
>>
>>The IE memory usage isn't really accurate, since IE preloads most
>>of its interface/bloat with windows.
>>
>>-- Jeff
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Kmeleon-dev mailing list
>>Kmeleon-dev@li...
>>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kmeleon-dev
>
>.-=
>I'm a 21st century digital boy
>I don't know how to live,
>But I've got a lot of toys.
>----------------------------------------
>Email: zs-malmgren@wi... ICQ: 45272983
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From: Zach Malmgren <zs-malmgren@wi...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 17:44
|
hehe.. that would work..
actually that would be pulling a microsoft.. that wouldnt be nice..
At 07:35 PM 3/26/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>we can load up all our dlls and stuff in a secret thread that's not shown
>in task manager, then it will look like kmeleon is only using 300k!
>
>At 05:36 PM 3/26/01, you wrote:
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From: Neil Cooper <njc@dc...>
RE: Mem use
2001-03-26 18:09
|
I'm curious, I use a web browser quite a lot (netscape, Mozilla,
K-Meleon...) but I open and close (quit) it quite a lot. Is it possible
to have an option to leave the core of it loaded after I've quit it so
that the next time I want a browser window it pops up immedietly (kinda
like IE does)?
I know I could just minimise it (but it still burns up taskbar space) or
use some 3rd app to hide it (but thats just a pain in the ass) and I
don't mind sacrificing 10megs of memory if it means I can have a zero
(close to) load time.
Just a though,
Neil
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From: Brian (BinaryC) <binaryc@te...>
RE: Mem use
2001-03-26 18:15
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I don't know if it's just me, but the very first time I start kmeleon, it
takes like 5 or 6 seconds to start, but then if I close it and reopen it,
it's instantaneous. I'm assuming it's not doing this for you (since you
wouldn't be asking for in otherwise). This makes me wonder why it does it
for me, perhaps windows is doing the Right Thing (tm) and caching it since
I have an assload of memory.
At 06:08 PM 3/26/01, you wrote:
>I'm curious, I use a web browser quite a lot (netscape, Mozilla,
>K-Meleon...) but I open and close (quit) it quite a lot. Is it possible
>to have an option to leave the core of it loaded after I've quit it so
>that the next time I want a browser window it pops up immedietly (kinda
>like IE does)?
>
>I know I could just minimise it (but it still burns up taskbar space) or
>use some 3rd app to hide it (but thats just a pain in the ass) and I
>don't mind sacrificing 10megs of memory if it means I can have a zero
>(close to) load time.
>
>Just a though,
>Neil
>
>
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From: Jeff Doozan <jeff@tc...>
RE: Mem use
2001-03-26 18:29
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On 27 Mar 2001, at 3:08, Neil Cooper wrote:
> I don't know if it's just me, but the very first time I start kmeleon, it
> takes like 5 or 6 seconds to start, but then if I close it and
> reopen it , it's instantaneous. I'm assuming it's not doing this for
> you (since > you wouldn't be asking for in otherwise). This
> makes me wonder why it does it for me, perhaps windows is
> doing the Right Thing (tm) and caching it since I have an assload of memory.
This is how it works for me, as well. Of course, after closing it and
running other programs for awhile, it's no longer kept in memory
and it takes a few seconds to load everything.
> I'm curious, I use a web browser quite a lot (netscape, Mozilla,
> K-Meleon...) but I open and close (quit) it quite a lot. Is it possible to
> have an option to leave the core of it loaded after I've quit it so that
> the next time I want a browser window it pops up immedietly (kinda like IE
> does)?
It's an interesting idea...I don't know how many people are willing to
sacrafice the memory, but it might be worth having as an option. I
can think of a couple of problems this might create: running
multiple instances would require some managment to make sure
that only one of them stays loaded in memory....perhaps we could
have a stub executable load all the dlls and then retire to the
tray...the actual kmeleon.exe wouldn't even need to know about it
since the dll loading is managed by windows already.
I don't think I'll make it a priority, but I'll add it to my list of potential
improvements.
-- Jeff
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From: Neil Cooper <njc@dc...>
RE: Mem use
2001-03-26 18:57
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>This is how it works for me, as well. Of course, after closing it and
>running other programs for awhile, it's no longer kept in memory
>and it takes a few seconds to load everything.
This is the problem. It may be 10, 20 30 minutes or an hour between
re-opening it and over these sorts of time it slowly gets pushed out the
cache.
>It's an interesting idea...I don't know how many people are willing to
>sacrafice the memory, but it might be worth having as an option. I
>can think of a couple of problems this might create: running
>multiple instances would require some managment to make sure
>that only one of them stays loaded in memory....perhaps we could
>have a stub executable load all the dlls and then retire to the
>tray...the actual kmeleon.exe wouldn't even need to know about it
>since the dll loading is managed by windows already.
This sounds like the sort of thing I was hoping for. With the current
memory prices I'm sure that most people are quite well equipped in that
region and perhaps the kind of people (making a horrid assumption...)
who are using K-Meleon probably have a bit of memory they could use to
keep it lying around.
>I don't think I'll make it a priority, but I'll add it to my list of
potential
>improvements.
Thanks, be a big one for me as I'm far as I'm concerned, the biggest
thing IE has going for it is the load time.
Thanks for the time,
Neil
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From: Christophe Thibault <Christophe@sp...>
RE: Mem use
2001-03-26 20:33
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Also, as a side note for kmeleon's loading time, if you are loading dlls,
don't forget to rebase them. it improves a lot the loading time under
Windows 9x/me. that's why all mozilla's releases dlls are all rebased.
-christophe
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Cooper
To: kmeleon-dev@li...
Sent: 3/26/01 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Kmeleon-dev] Mem use
>This is how it works for me, as well. Of course, after closing it and
>running other programs for awhile, it's no longer kept in memory
>and it takes a few seconds to load everything.
This is the problem. It may be 10, 20 30 minutes or an hour between
re-opening it and over these sorts of time it slowly gets pushed out the
cache.
>It's an interesting idea...I don't know how many people are willing to
>sacrafice the memory, but it might be worth having as an option. I
>can think of a couple of problems this might create: running
>multiple instances would require some managment to make sure
>that only one of them stays loaded in memory....perhaps we could
>have a stub executable load all the dlls and then retire to the
>tray...the actual kmeleon.exe wouldn't even need to know about it
>since the dll loading is managed by windows already.
This sounds like the sort of thing I was hoping for. With the current
memory prices I'm sure that most people are quite well equipped in that
region and perhaps the kind of people (making a horrid assumption...)
who are using K-Meleon probably have a bit of memory they could use to
keep it lying around.
>I don't think I'll make it a priority, but I'll add it to my list of
potential
>improvements.
Thanks, be a big one for me as I'm far as I'm concerned, the biggest
thing IE has going for it is the load time.
Thanks for the time,
Neil
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From: tma <ayatu@gm...>
Re: Mem use
2001-03-26 21:42
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> I'm curious, I use a web browser quite a lot (netscape, Mozilla,
> K-Meleon...) but I open and close (quit) it quite a lot. Is it possible
> to have an option to leave the core of it loaded after I've quit it so
> that the next time I want a browser window it pops up immedietly (kinda
> like IE does)?
>
> I know I could just minimise it (but it still burns up taskbar space) or
> use some 3rd app to hide it (but thats just a pain in the ass) and I
> don't mind sacrificing 10megs of memory if it means I can have a zero
> (close to) load time.
>
If you're on an NT-box you could give LiteStep a try, I use it all the time
at work and it gives you soooooo many possibilities to customize the
behaviour of your windows-session and obviously can be used to produce some
eye-candy X-Window-windowmanager-alike interface like I as an *nixer since
1995 do.
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From: Neil Cooper <njc@dc...>
RE: Mem use
2001-03-26 21:47
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>If you're on an NT-box you could give LiteStep a try, I use it all the
time
>at work and it gives you soooooo many possibilities to customize the
>behaviour of your windows-session and obviously can be used to produce
some
>eye-candy X-Window-windowmanager-alike interface like I as an *nixer
since
>1995 do.
Hmm, 2K box, haven't played with Litestep for quite a while. Probably
worth
having a look at.
Cheers,
Neil
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