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community
We host some mailing lists and newsgroups at mozilla.org,
to foster open communication in the developer community. We add new
forums with some regularity, in response to the needs of you, the
developers. What forums do you want? As new special- For now, we plan to use the traditional Usenet approach for deciding
when a new forum should be created: that is, new forums are created
when interested has been demonstrated by existing traffic. So, if
there is not a newsgroup or mailing list specific to the topic that you
are interested in, pick the one that is the closest fit, and discuss it
there. If it becomes clear that there is enough traffic on the new
topic to warrant its own forum, then we will create one.
Are you in the right place?
The mailing lists and newsgroups described here are for Mozilla
developers, not for end- If you're looking for technical support, or for help with
Netscape Navigator or Netscape Communicator, you're in the wrong place.
The newsgroups for discussing
and getting help with Netscape products are described over at
help.netscape.com.
Please help us keep the Mozilla forums on topic by picking the
right group for your messages. Thanks!
General Information Since some people prefer newsgroups, and some people prefer mailing
lists, we have created our discussion forums in pairs: both a newsgroup and a
mailing list. Each one mirrors its mate: messages sent to one of the
newsgroups will also show up in its corresponding mailing list, and vice
versa. That way, you get your pick of whether you'd like to read the message
via news or mail.
All of the mozilla.org newsgroups are served by the machine
news://news.mozilla.org/. However, the groups are also distributed
over Usenet: your local news server may have them, too. If your site
doesn't carry those groups, and you would like it to, talk to your local
news administrator and have them ask your site's upstream feeds for the
netscape.public.* hierarchy. If you are a news administrator,
you might need our public key to verify
our control messages.
We also plan to offer searching of older messages, but for now, the
way to get at older messages is to read the old messages present in the
newsgroups (which don't currently expire.) Also,
Deja News and other search engines
archive the Mozilla newsgroups. (Here's a
Deja News search to start with.)
How To Subscribe To read the messages as newsgroups, simply click on the newsgroup
names below.
If you choose to subscribe to one of the mailing lists, rather than
reading it as news, do this by sending mail to the appropriate
-request address. For example, to subscribe to the mailing list
called
[email protected],
you would send mail to
[email protected]
with
subscribe
in the subject. Likewise, to unsubscribe, you would put
unsubscribe
in the subject.
Those messages will go to the entire list, and lots and lots of people
will think bad things about you. It's a good way to lose friends and
embarrass yourself in front of your peers. Always use the -request
address for ``subscribe'' and ``unsubscribe'' messages. Just click
on one of the mailto: links below, and everything will be fine.
If you have trouble unsubscribing, it is almost certainly because
you are now using a different email address than the one with which you
subscribed. If you can't work it out, send mail to
[email protected].
Do not mail the list.
Ground Rules There are a few ground rules for participation in these forums.
Please respect these rules, and each other.
No personal attacks. If you feel the need to flame someone,
please do it in private email. Do not feel compelled to defend
your honor in public.
These are generally high-traffic groups, so please pay attention
to the topic of your messages, and check that it still relates to the
charter of the forum to which you are posting.
It is almost never appropriate to send the same message to two
mailing lists or newsgroups. Please don't do it. Or, if you must,
make sure you set the Followup-To and Reply-To fields to ensure
that replies go only to one, not to both.
It is absolutely never appropriate to send the same message to
two forums when one of those forums has ``general'' in its name.
These groups are for discussions about the Mozilla source code.
As such, discussions about which operating system is better, or
whether one toolkit is better than another, or whether Microsoft
is the root of all evil, are not relevant. There
are many forums for discussing such issues on Usenet; please have
such discussions
there
instead of on the Mozilla forums. Might we recommend:
Spam is a blight upon the face of the net. Nobody likes it.
However, it is hard to avoid. Despite our best efforts, you will
occasionally see spam on the Mozilla mailing lists and newsgroups.
If you feel the need to flame the spammer, do not CC the list.
Complaining about spam in public increases noise, but not signal.
It may make you feel better, but it doesn't help. (For info on
fighting spam effectively, check out
spam.abuse.net.)
If you have something that you are offering for others to read,
you should be willing to attach your name to it, and to give people
the ability to reply to you privately about it, in case they feel
that a public reply would be inappropriate.
So-called ``address munging'' is frowned upon. Your return
address should be replyable. If you want to avoid spam, use mail
filters, or don't post. Other alternatives are not welcome here.
Except for the ``patches'' group,
sending large attachments is frowned upon; including screen shots, and
especially including screen shots of textual dialog boxes. Many people
read these messages through slow network connections; try to be respectful
of them. If you have a large file that you would like to distribute, put
it on a web page and announce the URL instead of attaching it.
Do not quote the entire content of the message to which you are
replying. Include only as much as is necessary for context.
Remember that if someone wants to read the original message, they
can; it is easily accessible. A good rule of thumb is, don't
include more quoted text than new text.
Keep in mind that not everyone uses mail or news readers that
can easily display HTML messages. Consequently, you will reach
a larger audience if you post in plain-text. Many people simply
ignore HTML messages, because it takes a nontrivial amount of
effort to read them.
Unfortunately, this bears repeating. See
``How To Subscribe,'' above.
If you are new to Usenet, you should probably familiarize yourself
with the news.announce.newusers
FAQs
as well.
Topical Forums These newsgroups and mailing lists relate to the Mozilla project as
a whole. (Did you read the Ground Rules
above? Please do!)
Project Forums These newsgroups and mailing lists relate to specific development
efforts within the Mozilla project. Are you planning on organizing a
Mozilla-based development project? Do you feel you need a mailing list
more focussed than one of the existing lists? Let us
know...
Realtime Chat There is also a Mozilla
IRC channel:
#mozilla on the server irc.mozilla.org.
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