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w:mr user rename -- thank you

Hello Quentin,

Thank you so much for taking care of the rename. My contrib on w:mr has gone from hundreds of edits a day to a handful over the last few days, so you are right, I just did not find the time to do it over other, local admin/sysop/edit priorities.

Again, thank you for your help. I appreciate it. Let me know how I can help you sometime in the future :-)

अभय नातू 17:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC) talk to me here

You're welcome, there is really no problem. If you need some help too one day, feel free to ask. Best regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 19:14, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Demande de nettoyage du wiktionnaire en Tagalog

Salut Quentinv57,

J'ai récemment importé quelques milliers de mots en anglais sur le Wiktionnaire en tagalog ; mais raison officielle oblige, j'ai du les mettre à supprimer, dans la précipitation, j'ai mis à supprimer toutes les pages, y compris malheureusement ceux que je n'avais pas créés.

J'aimerais donc te faire une petite demande en tant que sysop global : pourrais-tu écrire un programme qui annule tous mes éditions sur une page que je n'avais pas créé ? J'essaye le revertbot de Pywikipedia, mais sans succès.

Une fois les reverts terminés, je te demanderai de supprimer toutes les pages restantes (mot en anglais créés par moi sur tl.wiktionary).

Bien cordialement, --Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 15:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Bonsoir. Je vais m'en occuper, mais pas ce soir. Il me faudrait également savoir quel moyen me permettra de différencier les pages que je sois supprimer de celles que je ne dois pas. Dois-je me restreindre à tes créations ou balayer toutes les éditions ? Dois-je me restreindre à un certain espace de noms ? Il me faudrait également un modèle, ou une chaîne de caractères qui revient dans toutes ces pages, et seulement dans celles-ci. Ca permettra de restreindre les chances d'erreurs, car il faut faire très attention aux suppressions automatisées. Bonne soirée. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 19:44, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Merci de ta réponse.

Pour les pages contenues dans la catégorie Candidates_for_speedy_deletion créés par moi (pages dont je suis le premier contributeur) : il faut les supprimer.

Sinon, si je ne suis pas le premier contributeur d'une entrée, alors il faudra révoquer tous mes changements, si j'en ai fait.

Tous les pages à traiter sont dans l'espace de nom principal--Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 22:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello. I only deleted the pages where you were the only contributor. 3175 pages have been deleted. For the reverts, only four contributions left so I don't think that will be a big deal to do it by hand. Cordially, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:05, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Oups désolé, je viens de me rendre compte... Tellement habitué à parler anglais ici... Bref : j'ai donc supprimé uniquement les pages où tu étais le seul contributions, ça fait un total de 3175. Il reste quatre pages dans la liste à supprimer, donc je ne pense pas qu'il soit nécessaire que je crée un script pour le revert. Bonne soirée. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Merci à toi :) --Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 17:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

ar_wikt

Hello Quentinv. I want to ask you if i could request adminship & bureaucratship for my self (in two separate applications at the same time) at Arabic Wiktionary. We have no active sysops, and no active bureaucrats there. I am the most active sysop in Arabic Wikipedia, i am active in Arabic Wiktionary 3 months ago ,and i think i have knowledge of matters relating to bots. Sorry for any nuisance my dear friend :)--M.Gedawy ^Talk 15:51, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello. I don't see any problem to give adminship there. I can't promise it will directly be permanent adminship because there are no active sysops. For bureaucrat rights, I'm not sure that is really necessary. There are not many admins there or accounts to rename. Moreover, accounts that need to be renamed on such wikis are mostly renamed because the account is renamed globally, so it would be really faster for stewards to do it for all wikis at the same time than if the requester asks separately in each wikis. Do you see what I mean ?

I think you should also start a proposal to remove the permissions from the sysops that are really inactive (i.e. not here last years at all or not answering when you ask them if they still need their accounts, depends on what your community decides). Best regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 16:19, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Berkham6

I've been checking his edits into ca.Wiki. He or she just have made 2 edits in one article called ca:Escola de Bagui. It seems to complish all policies and norms appliable at ca:wiki. I do not see which kind of vandalism is doing in other wikipedias. In the proposal I do not see the main causes of vandalism associated to users Berkham6, Fuckp9 or Woftperk. Thanks for giving an alert. Any other comment about vandalism should be more properly addressed at ca:Viquipèdia:Observatori del vandalisme. --Bestiasonica 17:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to warn you about it, in the case where he would begin to troll the wiki or do things that are really borderline to policy. That's because I've not see a bad behaviour on cawiki that I did not lock the account. Let's give him a chance there :). Have a nice evening. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 17:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Astroscienco

see the conversation here

Si "Astroscienco" dit la vérité, il serait un garçon de 11 ans. Merci de nous mettre en garde contre ses actions négatives dans divers projets de Wikimedia. Mais, compte tenu de son âge, il mérite peut-être un peu d'indulgence, et il me semble plus approprié de s'adresser à lui de façon pédagogique que conflictuelle. J'ignore quels "vandalismes" il a commis sous ses différents noms d'utilisateurs, mais il me semble plus approprié de lui expliquer ce que sont les projets Wikimedia et l'inviter à respecter le travail des bénévoles (comme vous l'avez fait) que de prendre des sanctions (blocage de compte) à moins qu'il ne soit sourd aux mises en garde. --Arno Lagrange ✉ 17:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Bonsoir. Je suis totalement d'accord avec toi, et c'est d'ailleurs pour ça que je t'ai prévenu, que j'ai discuté avec lui sur IRC et que j'ai répondu à son message pourtant pas très amical. A ce que je sache, j'ai plutôt pris la voie pédagogique que la voie conflictuelle. Pour le blocage sur le Wiktionnaire français, c'était quelque chose de mérité (j'ai quand même eu le droit à "quentin a un gros pénis et il éjacule 24h/24", pour les vandalismes sur les autres projets voici un exemple et un autre). Peu importe, s'il est prêt à se tenir à carreau ici, l'affaire est close. Et s'il est prêt à arrêter ses enfantillages sur le reste des projets, pas de blocage global. Mais j'ai simplement peur qu'il récidive et qu'il fasse encore perdre du temps aux contributeurs des autres projets. Je veux bien lui faire confiance, mais j'espère ne pas être déçu. Je n'ai pas regardé ses contributions sur le Wikipédia en espéranto. Mais si jamais il dérive, pourrais-tu m'en informer ? Je te remercie et te souhaite une bonne soirée. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 20:46, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Voir le topic Astroscienco (2) s.v.p. Astroscienco : Pluaj informoj pri mi aŭ Diskuti ? 03:09, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Lock info

Just to let you know that this user who you locked (& I blocked) is targeting the same user (User:Beau and others) on Commons via IPs at least one of which was an OP. I'm guessing other might watch this page too :) Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 17:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello Herby and thanks for your notification. I'm a bit handicapped with open proxies because I don't know how to detect them... Best regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 19:05, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I should have been clearer - sorry :)

The user was editing as an IP on Commons and so it showed in the Commons detection page which I always keep an eye on (the meta equivalent is here). In practice most edits from such proxies are not abusive and it is the only way some people can contribute but I tend to watch them - best --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

So you mean that those proxies should not be blocked ? I still don't really understand (probably due to my low experience with open proxies), sorry... -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 10:45, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Folk vary :) For me it is about whether they are abused. As I understand it there are places in both the middle East and far East where proxies are almost the only way to participate. As such I only ever block those which are abused but that is just me! --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:55, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Autopatrolled rights on sa.wikipedia

Hi Quentin, I wanted to know if there's any way you stewards could help with the enabling of autopatrolled rights on sa.wikipedia. The Special:NewPages list is building up, and it would be great if I could assign some of the users autopatrolled rights. Currently I don't see it in the User Rights Management page, so I'm guessing I'll have to file a bug about it? Lynch7 08:54, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mike, and sorry for the delay (I forgot your message :P)

Stewards can't give people this group, because it does not exist locally. You should get a local consensus for a new group called 'autopatrolled' or 'trusted' and give it the autopatrol right, and then to report to Bugzilla for implementation. You could also give sysops or bureaucrats the right to manage this group, which would be easier for you (you don't need everytime to ask stewards). Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 13:36, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I thought as much; a discussion has been opened locally. Thanks!.

I have another problem (this has no need of stewardry :) ), something to do with templates; See this for instance. There comes a userbox which says "This user has an account on the Wikimedia Toolserver". This problem is not limited to that particular templates, but extends to other templates like this one as well. I guess one of the earlier admins had meddled with this, but I can't find the source of this issue. Can you figure this out? Thanks, Lynch7 14:12, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

It comes from w:sa:फलकम्:Cat_handler. This page got moved and I can't find anywhere this template to restore it (it was probaby never created, but I don't think so)... You should see this as a temporary solution, because I don't know the way your categories were handled. At least you don't see the Toolserver picture :P. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 14:53, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

It's just as I thought; a previous admin messed up quite a lot of stuff, and this was among them. I'll let you know if a similar problem crops up again (don't even bother to go into technicalities, its Greek to me :P ). Thank you! :) Lynch7 17:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you're welcome, feel free to query me again if you need some more help ;) -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 17:24, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I see you're as old as me , I thought you were quite older! :P Lynch7 18:19, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

SR SUL Nightware

Sorry for being not the Wiki-Pro. Maybe an explanation what that acutally means (active Bureaucrats) and the such would help (or a link to a reference). --Nightware 04:12, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Just saw, that there is actually a list, but still beginners might not really understand Bureaucrats. --Nightware 04:15, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Sure, I will explain you (generally people who knows about meta and stewards know about bureaucrats ;-) ).

A bureaucrat is somebody who has the right to manage user groups and to rename users. You can learn more about that on this page. You will find here a list of pages where renaming can be requested, on projects with bureaucrats. That was written in the intro of the SR/SUL page - should it be written clearly in your opinion ?

Stewards should only rename on projects where local bureaucrats do not exist, because in this case only them can do it. But on big projects like en.wikipedia or de.wikipedia, that's done locally. I hope I covered your questions. If not, feel free to ask more. Regards, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 13:46, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Astroscienco (2)

Bonjour,

je suis Astroscienco. J'ai terminé mes études en Espéranto et j'ai quitté Wikipédia en Espéranto. Alors , pour l'affaire de blocage, on annule. Si tu n'est pas sûr, je t'invite à cliquer ici. Je ne quitte pas parce que je vais être bloqué, mais parce que j'ai terminé mes études et que Vikipedio ne me sera plus utile. Même avec mes ennuis, cela m'a fait plaisir d'étudier sur Vikipedio.

Cordialement,

Astroscienco : Pluaj informoj pri mi aŭ Diskuti ? 03:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour Astroscienco. Si tu as été bloqué sur ces projets, c'est parce que tu as continué à vandaliser malgré les avertissements qui t'ont été adressés. Mais tout le monde peut se repentir, et personnellement je ne verrais aucun problème si tu reviens un jour contribuer sur le Wiktionnaire français sous un autre pseudonyme et que tu t'y tiens tranquille (d'ailleurs je n'ai pas bloqué ce nouveau compte que tu viens de créer sur meta). L'important est que tu ne viennes plus mettre le bazar entre autres sur la Wikipédia francophone, tu feras déjà gagner beaucoup de temps aux contributeurs en faisant cela. Merci de ta compréhension et bonne continuation dans tes études en espéranto. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 09:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

J'ai écrit: J'ai terminé mes études en Espéranto et j'ai quitté Wikipédia en Espéranto. Alors , si tu va voir sur Uzanto:Astroscienco , il sera écrit (en espéranto) que j'ai fini mes études et que j'ai quitté Wikipédia eo. J'ai créé le compte Astroscienco pour étudier l'Espéranto. Le compte Astroscienco (eo) était pour te contacter. Astroscienco : Pluaj informoj pri mi aŭ Diskuti ? 12:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Je vais bâtir un compte Wikipédia trilingue (dis ça à ArnoLagrange si tu veux) que je devrais utiliser en tout temps (je quitte compte intetrlingua , esperanto [tu sais pourquoi] et simple english). je te communiquerai la langue et le nom dans le prochain topic parce que je ne l'ai pas encore créé. Astroscienco: Pluaj informoj pri mi aŭ Diskuti ? December 18th 2011 12:54pm

Bonjour,

voici quelques coordonnées de mon compte. Tu pourras me contacter dessus.

Nom: Eofren

Langue: Anglais

Ma page uilisateur : ici

Pour discuter avec moi : ici

Astroscienco

Bonsoir Astroscienco. Je ne pense pas que cela vaille le coup que tu te crées un compte différent par message que tu m'envoies, ça risque d'énerver les gens qui vont penser que tu as quelque chose à cacher (enfin je dis cela pour toi). J'espère qu'avec ton nouveau compte tu ne sèmeras pas la zizanie : comme je te l'ai dit, si tu te tiens tranquille je ne te bloquerai personnellement pas. Mais c'est la dernière chance, il ne faut pas la griller. Bonne soirée et encore bonne continuation. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 21:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Merci. J'ai réussi mes études en Espéranto de plus. Astroscienco Pluaj informoj pri mi aŭ Diskuti ? December 19th 2011 12:38am

bot flag

(mon niveau d'anglais étant assez médiocre, je vais m'adresser à vous en français).

Bonjour, où est ce qu'on peut demander un drapeau de bot ? --Ikotobaity 23:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Pas de soucis, le français est ma langue maternelle. Je ne pense pas qu'il soit très approprié de laisser des messages avec un compte bot, ce serait mieux d'utiliser votre compte principal quand l'édition n'est pas automatique (je dis cela car c'est rarement toléré qu'un bot (surtout s'il a le bot flag) soit utilisé à d'autres fins que des tâches automatiques approuvées).

Bref, pour les botflags, tout dépend du projet. Vous trouverez une liste des pages pour demander le bot flag dans cette liste. Dans chaque cas, il vous faut également signaler pour quelle tâche vous avez l'intention d'utiliser votre bot (si ce n'est que pour des interwikis, le processus peut être accéléré si le projet est dans cette liste).

Si vous avez d'autres questions, n'hésitez pas. Je vous souhaite une bonne soirée. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 23:41, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Merci de votre réponse. Etant donné ce que vous me dites, j'ai donc décidé d'ouvrir un nouveau compte. --Lohataona 11:20, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

cadvga user name renaming

Hello Quenti

I have requested a rename of my user from cadvga to cad. You updated request saying:

Not done Please see above. -- Quentinv57 (talk) 14:26, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if this means is not yet done or if is not going to happen for any reason...

Link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Changing_username

Happy Christmas! cad

Hello. That means your request was refused, simply because not needed. A renaming aims to move contributions from a name to another. Here your only contribution on meta is the request for renaming, so there is no reason to move contributions and would be easier to simply create a new account with the name you want. Don't you think so ? -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 14:15, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I have made something wrong. I am little bit lost with wikimedia and wikipedia. What I wanted to do is to have it changed in en.wikipedia.org not in wikimedia. So I guess this is not the correct place to ask for it, is it? Do you know where should I request it? --Cadvga 12:23, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sure, I know it's not easy to understand when you begin. To request it on en.wikipedia.org, the correct place is here. Cordially, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 12:32, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Cas d'Ikotobaity

Lui et moi avons longuement discuté sur IRC à propos de ce problème hier soir. Il a apparemment déposé une demande sur méta; mais qui est resté en suspens. Je vais l'aider un peu dans sa tâche, étant donné qu'il débute. Bien cordialement, --Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 18:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Oui, merci. J'oubliais que vous parliez français, mais Ikotobaity n'a pas cherché à me contacter cette fois ci. Je n'ai pas vraiment compris : Ikotobaity est un bot dont Lohataona est le propriétaire ? Ou l'inverse ? Dans ce cas, Ikotobaity devrait n'effectuer que des tâches automatiques avec un script qui a prouvé sa fiabilité (ou qui est vérifié un minimum à posteriori).

J'allais traiter sa requête sur meta, mais il faut d'abord qu'il ouvre une requête sur mg.wiktionary.org étant donné qu'il ne fait pas que des changements de liens interwikis. Désolé, ce sont les règles, au moins ça laissera un délai pour que vous puissiez tous deux bien vérifier que le robot fonctionne bien avant qu'il soit caché des modifications récentes. Je te souhaite une agréable fin d'année 2011. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 18:57, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Il a déjà déposé la requête sur mgwikt (requête que j'ai approuvée par ailleurs), et d'ici huit jours il devrait obtenir le statut de bot. Pour ce qui est de son compte, voici ce que j'ai compris : Ikotobaity est le bot de Lohataona : Il a créé un second compte pour pouvoir distinguer une édition manuelle et automatique. En cas de problèmes de dysfonctionnement, je me charge de son cas (ça n'arrive qu'assez rarement vu qu'on se passe nos scripts). --Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 23:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

:)

You need to be careful with such accounts - my CU antenna became alert :) Best regards --Herby ^{talk thyme} 12:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

What ? The Test Account Family I created ? I'm sorry, I needed them to make some edits cross-wiki to be sure it was detected (I'm working on something to make crosswiki vandals life harder ;P ). There is no need to CU them, you will find any way that they belong to me ;) -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 12:29, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

It is not a problem - it just took me a moment to realise that it might well be something legitimate - the work you do is good :) --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:51, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Your recent huwiki edits

Hi!

As a sysop on the Hungarian Wikipedia, I noticed that you fixed a case of vandalism on our sysop noticeboard (thank you) and requested that the user pages of the editor involved be deleted. Would you mind giving us some background info here? Why did you get involved? Is there some backstory here? If it's not too much trouble, respond at hu:Szerkesztővita:Malatinszky please.

Thank you,

Malatinszky 14:38, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello. I locked this user globally because I did not know if I have the right to block him on your project or not, and I nominated his editions for deletion. I just found that this user name was abusive so I checked his edits and I saw this was silly vandalism. Does it happen regularly on your project ? Cordially, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 15:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Sysop on Wiktionary lb

Hello Quentin57,

Can my Sysop-acount on lb:Wikrionary be reactivated. There is a lot to do, and playstation is growing. At least more than one third of the articles in exotic languages can not be verified and have to be deleeted. Actually quality is minus 250. Best regards --Les Meloures 15:30, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sure, I'm about to do it. But when I took a look on your sysop actions on this project before your status was removed, I noticed some details.

• First of all, I see you blocked some IPs for 6 months without any warning first. Some people just don't know some rules sometimes and need to be told. If somebody blank pages very fast, he does not need a warning ; but if some wrong pages are created that's probably not willingly. That's why you should warn people at least once before blocking, and you should use smaller duracies as well at the beginning (6 months should be normally used only if you first blocked one day, the user continues despite the block, then you blocked one month, after the block expired he come again to insert wrong informations, and then you try to block 6 months).
• Moreover, there is also a small problem with protections. An article should be protected only if there is really a lot of vandalisms by different IPs there, and there is no other solution than protecting (for example when a subject is targeted). And you should avoid to protect pages indefinitely. By doing that you forbid everybody that did not create an account to edit the page, which is a major barrier to accessibility.

That's all I wanted you to know. I noticed that most of the contributors of the luxemburgish Wiktionary don't have an account, so we have to be particularly vigilant on IP blocks and protections that forbid IPs to edit. Do you see what I mean ?

Thanks for your understanding. -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 10:45, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Hallo, thanks for your observations and i understand your notices. But let me explain one thing, in these times there was so a lot of non-sense edited by IP's that it was impossible not to block. As I remember every IP adress had a welcomme message and in most of times one or two warnings before they were blocked. lb:Wiktionary was (and is still) used as a Playstation by people (read IP) that want not work correctly. As a Luxembourger I feel really ashamed about the bad quality of the site. I created a lot of articles for examples. There are articles in foreign languages edited for example ass substantives and they are adjectives. In this relation I see that those people don't know anything about these languages and they are creating absolutely non-usefull pages, with links to Wikipedia-pages that don't exist, and at least with wrong or bad spelled luxembourgish examples.

lb:Wiktionary must be able to control articles and translations. As far as there is no confirmed user in exotic languages, all these articles are more than doubtfull and should not exist in serious dictionnary . And like in all the other wiktionaries the main target should be to create articles in the motherlanguage, otherwise we don't need it.

My first action if I'm confirmed as a sysop will be to unblock every IP-adresses and article-pages, and we will see the result.

Best regards --Les Meloures 12:13, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello Les Meloures,

I don't complain about the fact that you blocked those IPs at all. I'm just saying that it would be better to have blocked with a smaller period (ie some days for the beginning), and then to higher the block period if this IP still continues the vandalism. For the protection, it could be useful only if all IPs are targetting only one article, which is always the same, and blocking the IPs don't solve it.

I'm really happy to see that you will continue to administrate this project, it really needs somebody like you to grow up. Personally, I wanted to help there but did not prolong my adminship because I could no more help (I just understand a bit the language, but not enough to correct or create articles).

I confirmed your adminship for 6 months (we can't add more on projects with a small community). If you need some technical help, whatever it is, feel free to contact me.

Cordially, -- Quentinv57 ^(talk) 20:46, 25 December 2011 (UTC)