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The [[Wikimedia Foundation]] has a number of [[en:mailing list|mailing lists]] which are open to anyone who subscribes. Please see the list descriptions for posting information. Most lists disallow any posts by nonmembers, but allow anyone to subscribe and read the archives.
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The [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation</tvar>|Wikimedia Foundation]] has a number of [[:en:mailing list|mailing lists]] which are open to anyone who subscribes. Please see the list descriptions for posting information. Most lists disallow any posts by nonmembers, but allow anyone to subscribe and read the archives.


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Please respect [[en:Wikipedia:Wikiquette|Wikiquette]] and [[en:Wikipedia:No personal attacks|avoid personal attacks]] on the mailing lists, especially in the subject header as this is likely to be repeated by those replying. To request a new mailing list, see the [[#Create a new list|instructions below]].
Please respect [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikiquette|Wikiquette]] and [[:en:Wikipedia:No personal attacks|avoid personal attacks]] on the mailing lists, especially in the subject header as this is likely to be repeated by those replying. To request a new mailing list, see the [[<tvar name="1">#Create a new list</tvar>|instructions below]].


== General information ==
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Mailing lists are available in a number of formats: via a web archive, by email, or by [[en:NNTP|NNTP]] using the mail-to-news gateway [[en:Gmane|Gmane]]. Offsite archives of Wikipedia's mailing lists can be found at [http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia Gmane], [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ MARC], and [http://markmail.org MarkMail].
Mailing lists are available in a number of formats: via a web archive, by email, or by [[:en:NNTP|NNTP]] using the mail-to-news gateway [[:en:Gmane|Gmane]]. Offsite archives of Wikipedia's mailing lists can be found at <tvar name="1">[http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia Gmane]</tvar>, <tvar name="2">[http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ MARC]</tvar>, and <tvar name="3">[http://markmail.org/ MarkMail]</tvar>.


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Some of the mailing lists are occasionally summarized at the [[List Summary Service]] page.
Some of the mailing lists are occasionally summarized at the [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/List Summary Service</tvar>|List Summary Service]] page.


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Top posters and other statistics can be found at [https://stats.wikimedia.org/mail-lists/ Wikimedia Mail Stats: index]
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== Archives ==
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Almost all mailing lists archive their posts and you can view these archives online by clicking the link on the main list information page. As in all forums on the internet, you're warmly encouraged to search and scan the archives for past discussions, before asking a question or making a proposal. Not doing so reduces the signal : noise ratio, hence it is considered uncivil and disruptive.
Almost all mailing lists archive their posts, and you can view these archives online by clicking the link on the main list information page. As in all forums on the internet, you're warmly encouraged to search and scan the archives for past discussions, before asking a question or making a proposal. Not doing so reduces the signal : noise ratio, hence it is considered uncivil and disruptive.
== Community ban proposal - [[User:Zsfgseg]] ==

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{{discussion-top|1=The consensus is very clear. <font color="005522">[[User:SheffieldSteel|S<small>HEFFIELD</small>S<small>TEEL</small>]]</font><sup><small><b>[[User_talk:SheffieldSteel|TALK]]</b></small></sup> 17:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)}}
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''see also'': [[:Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Zsfgseg]]
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This user was initially blocked for vandalizing AN/I. Since that block he has repeatedly evaded his block, wanting a second chance (which is always denied because (a) his registered socks share the same name, and (b) he goes right back to the same behavior that got him blocked). Even more recently, he's been resorting to pestering me on IRC, seeking an unblock (usually after one of his socks gets caught), but today he followed up an IRC PM with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano&diff=367532071&oldid=367481016 this post] to my talk page.
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It is clear to me that he flat-out ''does not get it'', and his repeated communication with me is starting to border on harassment. I am seeking a community ban against him for these reasons. —<font color="228B22">''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jeremy]]''</font> <font color="00008B"><sup>([[User talk:Jéské Couriano|v^_^v]] [[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Dittobori]])</sup></font> 02:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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* '''Support Ban''' There's no excuse for that behavior and it's obvious he's just here to screw around, play games and act a fool. I think he DOES get it: this person has no desire to edit but gets his jollies by playing this game. [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 05:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' per above and his attempt to remove this discussion[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=367658259] -- [[User:AnmaFinotera|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342FF'>AnmaFinotera</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AnmaFinotera|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/AnmaFinotera|contribs]]) 20:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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**<small>IP is now blocked. [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 21:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
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*'''Support''' – Just formally ban him already; he's virtually ''de facto'' banned, anyways, as no admin in their right mind would even consider unblocking. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 21:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''': Considered this yesterday, decided to sleep on it, no change of heart. Removing this discussion (per AnmaFinotera, above) suggests an ongoing wish to be destructive. Second chance comes ''after'' demonstrating an ability and desire to be ''constructive''. [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 10:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support'''; better to make this formal for the sake of clarity, if not anything else - the behavior is not acceptable. [[User:Ncmvocalist|Ncmvocalist]] ([[User talk:Ncmvocalist|talk]]) 14:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Note''': [[special:contributions/71.249.105.53|Another user]] has been blocked for attempting to remove this discussion. [[User:Excirial|<font color="191970">'''Excirial''']]</font><sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contact me</font>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contribs</font>]])</sup> 20:11, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support Ban''' completly unacceptable behavior, reinforced by this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.249.105.53 last bout of socking]. [[User:Dreadstar|Dreadstar]] <small>[[User talk:Dreadstar|<span class="Unicode">☥</span>]]</small> 20:18, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' ban. Although per MuZemike, he's basically ''de facto'' banned. But, repeated socking, inappropriate behavior, and that I haven't seen any constructive edits from any of the accounts or IPs are good enough reasons for me. <span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"><b><font color="#4682B4">[[User:Elockid|<big>E</big>lockid]]</font></b></span> <sup>(<font color="#99BADD">[[User talk:Elockid|Talk]]</font>)</sup> 20:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Note''' – I have blocked 71.249.0.0/17 for 24 hours his continued disruption and [[WP:EVADE|block evasion]] here and on [[WP:ANI]]. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 20:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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::...and again for 55. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 01:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''', obviously. <font color="#FFB911">╟─[[User:TreasuryTag|Treasury]][[User talk:TreasuryTag|Tag]]►[[Special:Contributions/TreasuryTag|<span style="cursor:help;">presiding officer</span>]]─╢</font> 20:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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* '''Support ban''' – Clearly a lier who purposely wants another chance, just because the user wants to continue to vandalize. By the way, what do you mean with "community ban"? [[User:Heymid|Heymid]] ([[User talk:Heymid|talk]]) 20:53, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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: '''Comment.''' A community ban is a type of ban when you have been practically ostracized here. Like others said here, community-banned people have no chance being accepted again as normal WP editors, not after all the damage they have done. --[[User:Eaglestorm|Eaglestorm]] ([[User talk:Eaglestorm|talk]]) 15:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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* '''Support ban''' - from the IP evasion I've seen just today I'm happy for this to go ahead, and per the other supports above. [[User:SGGH|S.G.<sup><small>(GH)</small></sup>]] <sub>[[User_talk:SGGH|ping!]]</sub> 23:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support ban''' - this kind of disruption warrants nothing other than this kind of remedy. Volunteer time cannot be wasted by behaviour like this and so it needs to simply be prevented--[[User:Cailil|<font color="#999999" size="2">'''Cailil'''</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Cailil|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> 23:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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:: Consensus seems clear to me, I have tagged the account and added to the List of banned users. [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 03:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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:::If no one's willing to unblock him, it's unnecessary to go through this rigamarole.—[[User:Ryulong|<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryulong|<font color="Gold">竜龙</font>]])
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::::Apologies for pimping this every chance I get, but for editors dealing with clean-up, this is necessary: per [[WP:3RR]] reverting an indef'd editor can result in a block for a good-faith editor. A community ban changes that. There is value in a community ban over an indef-block-with-no-admin-prepared-to-unblock. [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 14:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support ban''' He's just screwing around, Wikipedia is not his play-place. <font face="Segoe Print">[[User:TTTSNB|<font color=#0040B0>The Thing]] <small>//</small> [[User talk:TTTSNB|<font color=#007080>Talk]] <small>//</small> [[Special:Contributions/The Thing That Should Not Be|<font color=#00A050>Contribs]]</span> 04:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support ban''' per all of the above. The IP Address blanking this section is evidently the same person, still willing to evade their ban and try to stop this process. &nbsp; — <font size="4">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G. ツ]]</font> 14:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' Clearly his recent hijinx have verified the absolute necessity. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</font>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</font>]]) 22:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Strongest possible support'''. User is one of the most disruptive, attention-starved individuals I've encountered on this site - the username variations are proof of that since they're all variations on the same dull theme - and I've encountered my fair share. Further support for a possible rangeblock. [[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 22:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Strong support''' per his history of vandalizeing TTTSNB's talk page as well as my own past experiences with him. His childish acts need to stop and a ban will alow for quicker action on any of his socks.--[[user:White Shadows|<font style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</font>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<font style="color:#DC143C">'''stood on the edge'''</font>]]</sup> 01:54, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Strong support''' - and if it is possible to construct a tight-enough rangeblock, I would recommend that too. -- '''''[[User:Phantomsteve|<font color="#307D7E">Phantom</font><font color="#55CAFA">Steve</font>]]'''''/[[User talk:Phantomsteve|<font color="#008000">talk</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Phantomsteve|<font color="#000080">contribs</font>]]\ 15:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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== Using digests ==
Especially if you're not used to mailing lists (or bigger amount of emails in general) or you care less about some particular mailing list, it's useful to read messages in digests, which means you'll receive a single message containing e.g. all the messages of the day. You can set this in your mailing list options.
Especially if you're not used to mailing lists (or bigger amount of emails in general) or you care less about some particular mailing list, it's useful to read messages in digests, which means you'll receive a single message containing e.g. all the messages of the day. You can set this in your mailing list options.


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With digests it's way harder to actively participate in discussion (in particular the most heated ones): it's mostly for "read only" mode, voluntary or self-imposed. The next step is to disable distribution to your address and read only the archives when you have time (or even don't be subscribed). For your occasional replies, here are some tips to follow the [[tswiki:Mailing list etiquette|mailing list etiquette]] and be sure your message will be put in the correct places and recognized by other list members:
With digests it's way harder to actively participate in discussion (in particular the most heated ones): it's mostly for "read only" mode, voluntary or self-imposed. The next step is to disable distribution to your address and read only the archives when you have time (or even don't be subscribed). For your occasional replies, here are some tips to follow the [[<tvar name="1">mw:Special:MyLanguage/Mailing list etiquette</tvar>|mailing list etiquette]] and be sure your message will be put in the correct places and recognized by other list members:
# absolutely avoid top posting, which is most horrible when replying to long digests: include only the message you're replying to, if any;
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#* This will automatically retrieve all visible and hidden headers (mailing list address and others, subject, reply-to) needed for your reply to be correctly recognized by human readers, threads and all sorts of software.
# <translate><!--T:14--> don't reply to the digest or create a new message to the list: instead, go to the web archives (for instance <tvar name="1">[[mailarchive:wikimedia-l]]</tvar>), find the thread you're replying to, select a message (no need to waste time finding the exact one), and click the link after the name of the author at the top.</translate>
#* Sometimes the link won't work. In such cases, on Thunderbird under GNU/Linux you can copy the link from the HTML source of the page and use it to create a new message from the terminal (or Alt+F2), e.g. <small><code>thunderbird "mailto:wikimedia-l%40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bwikimedia-l%5D%20Call%20for%20nominations%3A%20chapter-appointed%20seats%20on%20the%0A%09WMF%20Board%20of%20Trustees&In-Reply-To=%3CCAA2XHjAeA-ruyCUh5H9L%3D6g2hTrC0_%3DXYkvp32d9WjHgnM%2BUtw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"</code></small> (remember quotes!).
#* <translate><!--T:15--> This will automatically retrieve all visible and hidden headers (mailing list address and others, subject, reply-to) needed for your reply to be correctly recognized by human readers, threads and all sorts of software.</translate>
#* <translate><!--T:16--> Sometimes the link won't work. In such cases, on Thunderbird under GNU/Linux you can copy the link from the HTML source of the page and use it to create a new message from the terminal (or Alt+F2), e.g. <tvar name="cmd"><small><code>thunderbird "mailto:wikimedia-l%40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bwikimedia-l%5D%20Call%20for%20nominations%3A%20chapter-appointed%20seats%20on%20the%0A%09WMF%20Board%20of%20Trustees&In-Reply-To=%3CCAA2XHjAeA-ruyCUh5H9L%3D6g2hTrC0_%3DXYkvp32d9WjHgnM%2BUtw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"</code></small></tvar> (remember quotes!).</translate>


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== Specific lists ==
[[Image:Foundation-l word cloud without headers and quotes.png|thumb|450px|A [[:en:word cloud|word cloud]] of wikimedia-l discussions: now you know what they're about]]
<big>An overview of all existing mailing lists is at '''[[Mailing lists/Overview]]'''.</big>


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There is also an automatically generated list of public mailing lists, arranged alphabetically, at [[mail:|lists.wikimedia.org]].
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=== Wikimedia mailing list ===

[[mail:wikimedia-l|wikimedia-l]], formerly foundation-l, is the central mailing list for all Wikimedia-wide matters, whether they concern the projects, the Wikimedia Foundation, or the chapters. If you care about fundraising, starting new projects or debating global policy issues, this is the list for you. Posting in languages other than English is welcome, although English is a language most of the audience can understand. Multilingual posts (where the poster repeats the same text in another language) are also welcome.
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<tvar name="1">[[mail:wikimedia-l|wikimedia-l]]</tvar>, formerly foundation-l, is the central mailing list for all Wikimedia-wide matters, whether they concern the projects, the Wikimedia Foundation, or the chapters. If you care about fundraising, starting new projects or debating global policy issues, this is the list for you. Posting in languages other than English is welcome, although English is a language most of the audience can understand. Multilingual posts (where the poster repeats the same text in another language) are also welcome.
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See the moderation guidelines at [[mailarchive:foundation-l/2009-November/056032.html|[Foundation-l] Foundation-l open for business, with changes]], Sat Nov 14 03:20:23 UTC 2009, and [[Improving Foundation-l]]. -->


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Messages may be posted only by subscribers. Archives are publicly available.
Messages may be posted only by subscribers. Archives are publicly available.


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*[[<tvar name="1">mail:wikimedia-l</tvar>|wikimedia-l sign-up]] - [[<tvar name="2">mailarchive:wikimedia-l</tvar>|wikimedia-l archive]]


=== Wikimedia Announcements mailing list ===
=== Wikimedia Announcements mailing list === <!--T:25-->


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The Foundation also operates an Announcements only list [[Mailing_list/Wikimedia_Announce|WikimediaAnnounce-l]]. This list is meant to provide a simple, opt-in list where people can be rapidly notified of Foundation and Chapter announcements, news and upcoming events. The list is moderated and all replies go directly to wikimedia-l.
The Foundation also operates an Announcements only list <tvar name="1">[[Special:MyLanguage/Mailing list/Wikimedia Announce|WikimediaAnnounce-l]]</tvar>. This list is meant to provide a simple, opt-in list where people can be rapidly notified of Foundation and Chapter announcements, news and upcoming events. The list is moderated and all replies go directly to wikimedia-l.


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*[[mail:wikimediaannounce-l|WikimediaAnnounce signup]] - [[mailarchive:wikimediaannounce-l|WikimediaAnnounce archives]]
*[[<tvar name="1">mail:wikimediaannounce-l</tvar>|WikimediaAnnounce signup]] - [[<tvar name="2">mailarchive:wikimediaannounce-l</tvar>|WikimediaAnnounce archives]]


== List administration ==
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List administrators have complete control of every aspect of the mailing list, they can change individual list members' settings, moderate senders, change settings of the list, and more.
List administrators have complete control of every aspect of the mailing list, they can change individual list members' settings, moderate senders, change settings of the list, and more.


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Please see [[Mailing lists/Administration|mailing list administration]] for help operating the admin interface of mailman.
Please see [[<tvar name="1">Mailing lists/Administration</tvar>|mailing list administration]] for help operating the admin interface of mailman.


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If you feel a list you are on does not currently have enough active admins to keep up with the workload, please first contact the existing administrators at <listname>[email protected]. If they are inactive and don't respond, create a Phabricator task with your request and put it in the "Wikimedia-Mailing-lists" project ([https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Wikimedia-Mailing-lists quick link]).
If you feel a list you are on does not currently have enough active admins to keep up with the workload, please first contact the existing administrators at <listname><tvar name="1">[email protected]</tvar>. If they are inactive and don't respond, create a Phabricator task with your request and put it in the "<tvar name="2">Wikimedia-Mailing-lists</tvar>" project ([<tvar name="3">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Wikimedia-Mailing-lists</tvar> quick link]).


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=== Splitting up the Daily Digests ===


=== Splitting up the Daily Digests === <!--T:33-->
For Linux-Users there is a comfortable solution for splitting up the daily digest.


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Put the following 3 lines into your [[en:procmail|.procmailrc]] and activate procmail support.
Linux users can split up the daily digest:

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Put the following 3 lines into your [[:en:procmail|<tvar name="1">.procmailrc</tvar>]] and activate procmail support.
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=== Removing emails from archives ===
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:''See also [[wikitech:Remove a message from mailing list archive]]''

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Emails should be sent to mailing lists with care, as removal of emails from archives is hard. If you want to request removal of an email from a list, please contact <tvar name=addr>{{@|lists-archives-deletion-requests|lists.wikimedia.org}}</tvar>.

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Bear in mind that the email will still be in the Inbox of all the existing subscribers and in all public archives not managed by the Wikimedia Foundation.

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Emails should be sent to mailing lists with care, as removal of emails from archives with any degree of safety is nearly impossible.
If your language is not yet supported by Mailman, you can help by providing a translation for it. Instructions and an explanation on how to translate Mailman can be found at <tvar name="url">[http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Internationalization wiki.list.org]</tvar>.


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Running bin/arch, as is commonly suggested, has the effect of renumbering all the messages, breaking all links to the archive. It's also buggy and has corrupted the list archives in the past. Because of this, our developers have made a policy of not performing any archive deletions. Instead, they will wipe the contents of the message but keep the message to keep the archives intact. However, this can still be problematic so please make sure you have a good reason for requesting an archive removal, bearing in mind that the email will still be in the Inbox of all the existing subscribers and in the archives not managed by the Wikimedia Foundation.
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=== Translating Mailman ===
If your language is not yet supported by Mailman, you can help by providing a translation for it. Instructions and an explanation on how to translate Mailman can be found at [http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Internationalization wiki.list.org].


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== Create a new list ==
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To create a new mailing list, you have to request it in Phabricator. The bug should be placed in the Wikimedia-Mailing-lists project, [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Wikimedia-Mailing-lists&description={{urlencode:
To create a new mailing list, you have to request it in Phabricator. The bug should be placed in the <tvar name="1">Wikimedia-Mailing-lists</tvar> project, [<tvar name="2">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Wikimedia-Mailing-lists&description={{urlencode:
* Requested name of the mailing list (ending in @lists.wikimedia.org):
* Requested name of the mailing list (ending in @lists.wikimedia.org):
* Reasoning/explanation of purpose:
* Reasoning/explanation of purpose:
* Initial list administrator's email address:
* Initial list administrator's email address:
* Secondary list administrator's email address:
* Secondary list administrator's email address:
}} direct link with all the information included].
}}</tvar> direct link with all the information included].


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Before making your request, you should familiarize yourself with the [[Mailing lists/Standardization|standardization policy]].
Before making your request, you should familiarize yourself with the [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/Mailing lists/Standardization</tvar>|standardization policy]].


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Things to include:
Things to include:
* requested name of the mailing list, ending in @lists.wikimedia.org
* requested name of the mailing list, ending in <tvar name="1">@lists.wikimedia.org</tvar>
* reasoning/explanation of purpose (and link to community consensus, if applicable)
* reasoning/explanation of purpose (and link to community consensus, if applicable)
* initial list administrator's email address
* initial list administrator's email address
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* description of the list for the list info page (should include even if private list so ops and mailman admins know why it exists.)
* description of the list for the list info page (should include even if private list so ops and mailman admins know why it exists.)


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Please note that all mailing lists are created public, and with public archives, unless stated/requested otherwise.
Please note that all mailing lists are created public, and with public archives, unless stated/requested otherwise.


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After submitting the bug correctly, your list should be created within the next few days. During that time you should read over the [[Mailing lists/Administration|mailing list administration guide]]. Remember to add the mailing list to the [[/Overview/]] and to [http://gmane.org/ Gmane].
After submitting the bug correctly, your list should be created within the next few days. During that time you should read over the [[<tvar name="1">Mailing lists/Administration</tvar>|mailing list administration guide]]. Remember to add the mailing list to the [[<tvar name="2">Special:MyLanguage/Mailing lists/Overview</tvar>|Overview]] and to <tvar name="3">[http://gmane.org/ Gmane]</tvar>.
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For an overview of all mailing lists, see Overview subpage

The Wikimedia Foundation has a number of mailing lists which are open to anyone who subscribes. Please see the list descriptions for posting information. Most lists disallow any posts by nonmembers, but allow anyone to subscribe and read the archives.

Please respect Wikiquette and avoid personal attacks on the mailing lists, especially in the subject header as this is likely to be repeated by those replying. To request a new mailing list, see the instructions below.

General information

Mailing lists are available in a number of formats: via a web archive, by email, or by NNTP using the mail-to-news gateway Gmane. Offsite archives of Wikipedia's mailing lists can be found at Gmane, MARC, and MarkMail.

Some of the mailing lists are occasionally summarized at the List Summary Service page.

Top posters and other statistics can be found at Wikimedia Mail Stats: index

Archives

Almost all mailing lists archive their posts, and you can view these archives online by clicking the link on the main list information page. As in all forums on the internet, you're warmly encouraged to search and scan the archives for past discussions, before asking a question or making a proposal. Not doing so reduces the signal : noise ratio, hence it is considered uncivil and disruptive.

Using digests

Especially if you're not used to mailing lists (or bigger amount of emails in general) or you care less about some particular mailing list, it's useful to read messages in digests, which means you'll receive a single message containing e.g. all the messages of the day. You can set this in your mailing list options.

With digests it's way harder to actively participate in discussion (in particular the most heated ones): it's mostly for "read only" mode, voluntary or self-imposed. The next step is to disable distribution to your address and read only the archives when you have time (or even don't be subscribed). For your occasional replies, here are some tips to follow the mailing list etiquette and be sure your message will be put in the correct places and recognized by other list members:

  1. absolutely avoid top posting, which is most horrible when replying to long digests: include only the message you're replying to, if any;
  2. don't reply to the digest or create a new message to the list: instead, go to the web archives (for instance mailarchive:wikimedia-l), find the thread you're replying to, select a message (no need to waste time finding the exact one), and click the link after the name of the author at the top.


Specific lists

An overview of all existing mailing lists is at overview subpage.

There is also an automatically generated list of public mailing lists, arranged alphabetically, at https://lists.wikimedia.org.

Wikimedia mailing list

wikimedia-l, formerly foundation-l, is the central mailing list for all Wikimedia-wide matters, whether they concern the projects, the Wikimedia Foundation, or the chapters. If you care about fundraising, starting new projects or debating global policy issues, this is the list for you. Posting in languages other than English is welcome, although English is a language most of the audience can understand. Multilingual posts (where the poster repeats the same text in another language) are also welcome.

Messages may be posted only by subscribers. Archives are publicly available.

Wikimedia Announcements mailing list

The Foundation also operates an Announcements only list WikimediaAnnounce-l. This list is meant to provide a simple, opt-in list where people can be rapidly notified of Foundation and Chapter announcements, news and upcoming events. The list is moderated and all replies go directly to wikimedia-l.

List administration

List administrators have complete control of every aspect of the mailing list, they can change individual list members' settings, moderate senders, change settings of the list, and more.

Please see mailing list administration for help operating the admin interface of mailman.

If you feel a list you are on does not currently have enough active admins to keep up with the workload, please first contact the existing administrators at <listname>[email protected]. If they are inactive and don't respond, create a Phabricator task with your request and put it in the "Wikimedia-Mailing-lists" project (quick link).

Advanced questions and tips

Splitting up the Daily Digests

Linux users can split up the daily digest:

Put the following 3 lines into your .procmailrc and activate procmail support. 

:0:
* ^Subject:.*mailinglist.*Digest
| formail +1 -ds >>mailinglist

Removing emails from archives

Emails should be sent to mailing lists with care, as removal of emails from archives is hard. If you want to request removal of an email from a list, please contact lists-archives-deletion-requests(_AT_)lists(_DOT_)wikimedia(_DOT_)org.

Bear in mind that the email will still be in the Inbox of all the existing subscribers and in all public archives not managed by the Wikimedia Foundation.

Translating Mailman

If your language is not yet supported by Mailman, you can help by providing a translation for it. Instructions and an explanation on how to translate Mailman can be found at wiki.list.org.

Create a new list

To create a new mailing list, you have to request it in Phabricator. The bug should be placed in the Wikimedia-Mailing-lists project, direct link with all the information included.

Before making your request, you should familiarize yourself with the standardization policy.

Things to include:

  • requested name of the mailing list, ending in @lists.wikimedia.org
  • reasoning/explanation of purpose (and link to community consensus, if applicable)
  • initial list administrator's email address
  • secondary list administrator's email address (as a backup)
  • description of the list for the list info page (should include even if private list so ops and mailman admins know why it exists.)

Please note that all mailing lists are created public, and with public archives, unless stated/requested otherwise.

After submitting the bug correctly, your list should be created within the next few days. During that time you should read over the mailing list administration guide. Remember to add the mailing list to the Overview and to Gmane.

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