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Battle of Gulnabad

Hey HoI, had you checked the page numbers of the Axworthy, Michael(2009). The Sword of Persia: Nader Shah, from tribal warrior to conquering tyrant source referenced in the infobox? I couldn't find anything on page 75 or 77 of Axworthy concerning troop numbers. Different edition of the book?--Kansas Bear (talk) 15:30, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Kansas Bear. I didn't, but now that you say it, I checked and couldn't find anything either about the number "20,000". In fact, this is what it says on page 47 (starts talking about the prelude of the battle from page 45); "The Afghans were many fewer than the Persians and after their losses at Kerman may have numbered as few as 11,000," And since Britannica is barely WP:RS and its citation doesn't even mention the battle as far as I can see, I guess it's safe to replace "20,000" with "11,000", thoughts? HistoryofIran (talk) 15:46, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good. Had the page numbers been changed? --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I noticed similar issues with citations from the same Axworthy book at Nader Shah (I think the vast majority, if not all, are corrected now), where the pages were completely different, and some cases the info slightly different as well. Either another edition or disruption that went through unnoticed I guess. I have changed the result now [1] HistoryofIran (talk) 16:21, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Request

Hello, I require your assistance. I understand that your knowledge of Iranian history surpasses mine. Currently, there is an edit dispute in the talk section of the article "Chandragupta II's campaign of Balkh." The disagreement revolves around confirming whether the Sassanids were the belligerents against the Guptas in this campaign. I have limitations in this historical area and would appreciate your involvement to help conclude the discussion. Thank you. Imperial^[AFCND] 09:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@ImperialAficionado: Hi. I don't have much time right now, so I'll check it later. I've made an SPI though Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jonharojjashi. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Title of Shirvanshah

I see that you were involved in the promotion of this article to GA, so I wanted to know your opinion on this. The opening sentence in the lead I think is WP:ISATERMFOR. Since the article is about the state and not the title, it would best read "Shirvanshahs were the rulers of Shirvan". But then, I guess the title of the article would have to be plural, i. e. "Shirvanshahs". If I'm correct on this, I will move the page. (I believe this would be a technical move and not warrant a full discussion and voting procedure.) Aintabli (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi. Well, technically it's about both the state and title, they're too closely intertwined to make a distinction. I don't mind using "Shirvanshahs" as the article name and slightly changing the lede to fit that. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thank you, I have made the appropriate changes in the article and posted a requested move. Aintabli (talk) 00:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Makula family has been nominated for deletion

Category:Makula family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:23, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Kurdistan infobox

Hey, since you've been involved in editing the infobox at Kurdistan, I wanted to get your opinion on my edit from August which was subsequently reverted[2]. I have some issues with some of the parameters of the current infobox like "Stateless nation" which is about Kurds and not Kurdistan, and the "demonym(s)" parameter since it excludes everyone but Kurds. Any thoughts? Having some consensus on the infobox would be great to prevent back and forth editing. Semsûrî (talk) 23:56, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I agree, using "Stateless nation" and "demonym(s)" feels off. A more detailed map than the current one would be nice as well. HistoryofIran (talk) 02:22, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Safavid queens consort

A tag has been placed on Category:Safavid queens consort indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 14:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Suspecting meatpuppetry

Hello, I've posted a comment regarding the recurrence of planned meatpuppetry in the archived discussion. It appears to be on the rise, with a new user named User:Agniveer099 editing the articles 'Chandragupta II's Campaign of Balkh' and 'Draft:Gajapati invasion of Bidar.' Additionally, another new user, User:Al khawarizmi.313, has been created. Remarkably, both accounts have edited in support of User:Sudsahab, previously associated with the account User:Umarrizwan.ansari. Notably, Al khawarizmi.313 restored Sudsahab's revision in Maratha invasions of Bengal, while Agniveer099 removed comments from the Draft article created by Sudsahab. What's intriguing is that both these users joined Wikipedia just a few hours ago! Imperial^[AFCND] 13:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Another brand new user; User:Malik10001. Joined few minutes ago. Imperial^[AFCND] 13:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Another user to note is User:Woason. While I'm not casting suspicion on every newly created user, it's perplexing that they all follow a similar pattern and seem to align with a common objective. Additionally, I'm surprised by how these recently created users gain access to draft articles, especially ones that are newly created.Imperial^[AFCND] 13:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I've never seen so many new users appearing at the same time editing the same articles, I'll see what I can do, not sure if it's time for WP:ANI. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

All of them aren't editing the same article, yet their editing patterns imply a shared objective. Considering that all of them are newly created, suspicions are increasing. Imperial^[AFCND] 13:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it's WP:ANI time, I'll create a thread. If you have more evidence, please post it here so I can include it in my ANI report. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Like you said at the sockpuppet investigation of Jonharojjashi, the user who changed account (Umarrizwan.ansari and Sudsahab) also adds "Decisive" often on the battle articles they created. It is evident from the revisions [3], [4] and [5]. Imperial^[AFCND] 14:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. It's going to take a bit of time to make the report due to so many users involved, I'll see if I can get it done today. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:51, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I found a new thing too. A user, who have a history of editing Kalinga related articles have randomly came and started defending Sudsahab in the article Draft:Gajapati invasion of Bidar. Imperial^[AFCND] 05:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I've come across a significant lead. Upon reviewing conversation between User:Shakib ul Hassan and User:Magadhan3933, I discovered an Instagram page named "@manik.edits_" After examining the profile and following list, it became apparent that there's a sizable group on Instagram engaged in historical debates. I suspect they might have coordinated efforts through Instagram groups, posing a potential challenge. This isn't a minor issue; I've identified thousands of such accounts using offensive language to describe individuals. I encourage you to investigate for a better understanding of the gravity of the situation. Their disputes predominantly revolve around religion, ethnicity, country, and regions, suggesting that merely addressing socks and meatpuppets may not suffice. They could recruit individuals passionate about promoting their historical backgrounds without hindrance.

Additionally, while scrutinizing one of the articles recently created (Siege of Etawah (1770)) by User:Sudsahab, I observed it relies on WP:SYNTH. Despite requesting him to quote the specific parts used, he consistently failed to do so. This raises suspicions about source manipulation in their articles.

Surprisingly, the reviewers aren't thoroughly checking articles during AFC submissions, and these editors have now begun creating articles directly in the mainspace. User:Asilvering previously advised against inventing names for battles not mentioned by historians. However, these editors persist in creating articles such as the Battle of "X" on a regular basis. I used to do so myself, but following Asilvering's guidance, I've refrained from creating articles merely based on the location of an event.Imperial^[AFCND] 10:47, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, I did make a ANI report, just not a big one. I'll put the big one on hold for now. Something is definitely off, and I'll keep watch. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, HistoryofIran!

Happy New Year!

HistoryofIran,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Mann Mann (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Mann Mann, thank you very much and likewise. Hope everything is well. HistoryofIran (talk) 04:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Azerbaijani nationalism problem

The problem editing continued on the article Azerbaijani nationalism, I reported Aruturo Van Kaigan Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Aruturo Van Kaigan reported by User:TimothyBlue (Result: ).

I mentioned that I think this editor is NOTHERE, didn't want to speak for you, but if you have an opinion...

Greetings from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  09:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, you pretty much mentioned everything I would have said, appreciate it. HistoryofIran (talk) 10:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

New additions to the Battle of Karnal

Hello HistoryofIran, its once again a pleasure to talk to you. I couldn't help but notice that there have been recent edits made to the Battle of Karnal regarding someone called "Balkishan", this has been done a by a user who's recently written an article on the very same topic, however the user has only provided two sources. The problem arises that one of those sources is in Hindi and the other one is written by an independent writer and cannot be considered WP:RS. I'm currently looking to find more information on this topic, and don't seem to be making much progress, but just wanted to clarify if these edits could be removed due to the questionable information added along with it that does not seem to have reliable sources Salman Cooper Mapping (talk) 15:38, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Salman Cooper Mapping, thanks and likewise. Is the edit I just reverted what you're referring to? It looked strangely written (copy-pasted?) and used questionable citations [6] HistoryofIran (talk) 16:23, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah yes, that was the one. I've searched for any considerable and reliable sources regarding this but nothing was to be found, thanks for the revert. Salman Cooper Mapping (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Why you delete my work!

You have added an opinion that exists in Arab history. What right do you have to remove it? Mohannd062 (talk) 22:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Please read my edit summary. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran You can check this user

Historianfox [7] seems to be a new sock of User:Pentapotamianist and PakistanHistorian as you're an expert to judge behavior similarities about this sock network.? They both made edits at Gurjar clans and the new sock moved the page to the wrong title because all the list linked to Gurjar clans is only talked about clans, not any tribes, so I don't know why he moved without any discussion.? If you have spare time, please keep an eye on this sock. Also see this Scheditia sock both seemed to be one person and must be Sock of PakistanHistorian there edits are mostly about Punjabi or similar languages and removing or adding some text on Gurjar related pages, making and redirecting of Gurjar related pages without any discussion.103.249.115.223 (talk) 01:54, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I don't think Historianfox has any connection here based on their edits (also, if they did they would likely have been caught in the Checkuser in the recent SPIs of PakistanHistorian). But the other user did tingle my spidersenses, I've filed an SPI [8]. Thanks for the help. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran, But user name Historianfox is also pretty similar; it will become clearer in the coming days. Thank you, by the way, for your prompt response.103.249.115.223 (talk) 03:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bahram Mirza

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Bahram Mirza you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Aintabli -- Aintabli (talk) 21:22, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Saraiki

When you dont have valid sources and arguments you will just rely on childish blame game approach and refer to Admin notice board rather than professional Dispute resolution. I knew it LingoSouthAsia (talk) 13:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)