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Articles created/expanded on March 8

Wahl-Coates Elementary School

Created by PGPirate (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Long enough and new enough, but that hook isn't exactly scintillating, and the notability/sourcing of the article is a little iffy: all references seem to point to either Pitt County or East Carolina University. Jpatokal (talk) 10:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I think it is a unique partnership, but I believe the phrasing is currently off. Any thoughts? Thanks, PGPirate 21:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
... that Wahl-Coates Elementary School is a partnership between Pitt County Schools and East Carolina University which began in 1914. Is this better?
Length and dates are fine but elementary schools are not inherently notable and this article is sourced entirely to primary sources (and has been tagged accordingly). Surely there are some reliable third-party sources that discuss this fascinating partnership? - Dravecky (talk) 09:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After extensive searching on the google, I found two articles that corroborate with the other cites. There really isn't much third-party data out there. PGPirate 20:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've spent some time researching the school, and I find that there is a lot of information "out there" about it. However, the article content and the hooks are not fully consistent with the various sources. Notably, it appears that the school is no longer operated in partnership with the university, although the university does continue some interaction with the school. Also, the significance of the recent "recognition" claimed on the school website is not clear -- I have a hunch that "school of distinction" simply meant that kids did reasonably well on standardized tests (based on this webpage). I'd like some issues with the article to be ironed out before it goes to DYK. --Orlady (talk) 14:00, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wandlebury Enigma

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 04.30, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Length checks out and although the page was created more than 5 days ago, it qualifies on the basis of 5x expansion on March 9. The issue is that the ref quoted for the hook does not involve "archaeoastronomy" as far as I can make out. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 10:27, Friday March 11, 2011 (UTC) 10:27, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thanks for the review! I've changed the hook to make it clearer that one of the Wandlebury Enigma theories was it's observational puprpose. Hope this clarifies. Paul Bedson (talk) 12:28, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Apologies again if this is inappropriate, but we have this, Leper Stone, Portingbury Hills, and Astronomical Complex, all mentioning the fringe writer Christian O'Brien. These are basically the same fringe claim put forward in various ways. Dougweller (talk) 19:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not sure I understand the above, "it qualifies on the basis of 5x expansion on March 9." The page was created on March 2 and nominated on March 11, which is 9 days later and 4 days late. The fact that nothing was done on the article for nearly a week, I don't think means the article can suddenly be turned into a 5x expansion nom listed under March 8, although that's when the expansion began.
I don't know if there's a ruling on how long there should be between the previous edit and when an expansion is begun, but perhaps that needs to be established. What I do know is that this article was nominated as "new" and not as "expansion" and that it was nominated 9 days after it was created, which would make it an automatic reject. The fact that on March 9 it reached 5x expansion is meaningless, though if it had been entered on March 11 as an expanded article, the time element would be okay. I don't know if this sort of thing is accepted after the fact, though. The rules are listed here to be read and followed, not cast aside whenever someone fails to read them — or are the rules now there only for those who wish to abide by them?
According to the DYK instructions at the top of this page, 5x expansion noms qualify from the date the article was created or the expansion, not the date 5x expansion was reached. There seems to be a lot of confusion about this of late. On occasion, this time frame may be stretched to 8 days (as per Rule D9) but as it clearly states in the DYK Instructions at the top of this page, "list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here)". I won't put the rejection tick up here, though I think it rightfully belongs here. I'll leave that to someone who has more experience on DYK than I. Marrante (talk) 17:37, 16 March 2011 (UTC) (fixed a typo Marrante (talk) 17:39, 16 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]
Article "creation" on March 2, 2011, was simply as a redirect and thus is not a factor in DYK calculations. (An article replacing a redirect is by definition a new article.) As such, the real creation date is March 8, 2011, and so dates and length are just fine. However, the hook fact is not directly cited with an inline reference, as per DYK rules. Also, the hook is unclear and needs to be rewritten. - Dravecky (talk) 10:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dravecky's correct in that previous existence as a redirect doesn't count as an article creation date so there is no problem here. Besides having the hook fact uncited, I share Doug Weller's concern about reliance on Christian O'Brien work in the article. While O'Brien is not directly cited as a footnote, his paper is listed as a sort of See Also and it appears that several of the uncited claims (such as the hook fact) seem to be pulled from his work. I would like to see the hook fact cited to a more reliable source than O'Brien. As a side, I would recommend adding a couple section headings to the article so it doesn't look like one big macro-stub. AgneCheese/Wine 22:39, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 9

Chapter 3 of the Syrian Constitution

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The lead, which has no citations and different information, says the chapter has 19 articles but you cite Articles 131 and 143. This article needs to be fleshed out better to be readable.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead does not provide any extraordinary facts (it's a count of the number of the articles in the chapter), and thus does not need citation. It certainly does not provide different information, as this article is about the 3rd chapter. The Syrian constitution numbers the articles continuously. The 3rd chapter contains articles from 131 to article 148. Yazan (talk) 00:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The lead, if not cited, should provide a summary of the article that follows, which is why it would not need citation. There are facts presented in the lead, which are not in the article proper.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:30, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yazan, do keep in mind that with the global readership of Wikipedia, it is fair to assume that many readers won't have as clear of an understanding about the chapter/articles/section layout of the Constitution of Syria as you may have. Neither the Constitution of Syria article nor this one provide much background or clarity that would help readers like Thelma or myself better understand what we are reading. Rather than take Thelma's concerns as an affront, it would be more helpful to improve the clarity and readability of the article for all readers. At the very least, you could add to the article the same clarification that you provided here ("The 3rd chapter contains articles from 131 to article 148") to the lead. Beyond that, I would recommend some slight MOS cleanup of the section headings per WP:Section caps. But, all in all, the article passes DYK criteria for date and length, with an AGF tick for FN#1 that goes to an offline source. Note to promoting admins While I gave this an AGF tick, I would recommend holding off on immediately promoting this nom to the queues, to give the nominator a little time to do the minor tweaks for MOS and readability. Again, while those are minor concerns that shouldn't prevent this from being featured (thus the approval), it still would be nice if it was polished a little bit more before hitting the main page. AgneCheese/Wine 22:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodlands: Europe Between Stalin and Hitler

Created by Tentontunic (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some POV issues with this one. Possibly they are only minor, but I'm a little concerned that there is only one line of criticism of the book in the article. That may, of course, reflect the reviews, but then again, maybe not. So someone may need to do a little research on this. Gatoclass (talk) 06:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay in getting back to this, I've been busy with other things. I'll try to have a look through the reviews sometime today, and post a response. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I finally got around to doing a little research on this book, and it confirms my suspicion that the article is one-sided. The "criticism" section is basically a litany of praise, with one review after another extolling its virtues while only one sentence is given to a vague reference to criticism. Yet of the first two reviews of this book I looked at from a google search, the first calls the book "highly controversial", quoting historians who have attacked its comparison of Nazism and Stalinism, while the second states that the book gives a vastly reduced estimate of civilian victims of Stalin's regime, of 3.3 million for the Holodomor and 6 million in total. But you wouldn't know any of this from reading the article, which if anything implies the opposite in both cases. So I think this one still needs some work before it can be promoted. I will try to put a little work into it in the next day or two. My apologies once again BTW for taking so long to come back to this. Gatoclass (talk) 06:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I am fine with the alt hook and other edits by Gatoclass. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou Piotrus. This one is ready for review now. Since I've made some edits to the article, I will leave it to a third party to do the review. Gatoclass (talk) 23:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Avenue

The last rugby union league game of London Irish being played at the Avenue

  • ... that Spelthorne Liberal Democrats councillors opposed The Avenue redevelopment plan because they disagreed with the Conservative policy that 80% of the new homes needed either 1 or 2 bedrooms?

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • MickMacNee. Length, author & date fine. No major content issues except that the article could be improved with a proper layout and lede section, per the MoS. But the killer for the nom is the fact that the cite for the hook does not support the idea that the Lib Dems opposed the proposal (i.e. that a vote took place), it's just supporting the statement of their general opposition to the 80% policy. MickMacNee (talk) 21:08, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well it's the fact that it was the only reason they opposed the plans was because of the 80% policy. Conidering that Spelthorne Council is basically controlled by the Conservatives shows that they have little way to legeslate against it but gives other groups another reason to oppose. I will see if I can get another hook... The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:40, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How is this as a better hook? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 16:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 12

Clubfoot George

  • ... that more than 40 years after his death by hanging, for being one of the Innocents, Clubfoot George became one of of the most-praised exhibits in Virginia City's museum?
  • Reviewed: Backatown ([1])
  • Comment: The hook is nominated for April Fools' Day, but just in case it is not promoted for April 1 I am nominating it for regular DYK too

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I actually prefer a hook with less clarification. The less clarification there is the more people will read the article :-)
Request to admins, as I mentioned above the article was nominated for April Fools' Day. If it is possible not to move this hook to the preparation until it is either promoted or declined for April 1 DYK, it would be great. After all it is only a little bit more than a week to go.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:21, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the April's Fool angle but is there anything that Innocents can be wiki-linked to? Especially with the capitalization it sticks out like a sore thumb with nothing wiki-linked. It is not a major concern to hold up the nomination but it is a shame that there isn't an article on Gang of Innocents. AgneCheese/Wine 03:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I might be able to turn that redlink blue in the next couple days. It looks like there are a few hits on google books. Qrsdogg (talk) 03:58, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Started the article, will try to expand it later. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Itamar attack

!-- --> --BabbaQ (talk) 11:15, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article is not yet stable, so I think it will need a couple of days to settle down. I also currently have some minor NPOV concerns, but hopefully they can be remedied quickly. The article has also been nominated at ITN BTW. Gatoclass (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is still changing rapidly and has some POV issues, so I think it will be best if review is left for as long as possible. Gatoclass (talk) 12:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is now sufficiently stable.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:07, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May 21st, 2011 doomsday prediction

Created by Ashershow1 (talk). Nominated by Ashershow (talk) at 23:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

now merged back in to parent article, which does not meet the 5x expanded requirement. This arrangement appears stable but, even if a consensus emerged to recreate, the article nominated here is clearly not stable. Warofdreams talk 15:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the merge and rejection of the hook but, I have to admit, if it was eligible it would have been a great hook to set aside in the special holding area for May 21st :P AgneCheese/Wine 03:43, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Widow (Joseph Wright painting)

silhouette of woman against bright sky

Created by Andrew Dalby (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 14:01, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 13

Pioneer Woman

Bronze sculpture of a woman in a sunbonnet leading her son.

Created by Carptrash (talk), VernoWhitney (talk). Nominated by VernoWhitney (talk) at 23:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Though I find this article interesting, as well as complete, well structured and well sourced, the phrasing of the following line struck me: "No stranger to multi-tasking, she still manages to hold on to her rifle while feeding the baby". It's sourced to a book, but is not indicated as a quote. I googled it, and it comes up, identical, on a webpage from 2008 (which may have copied it verbatim from the book in question). As the article clearly contains at least one copyvio, it cannot be given the go-ahead at present, despite its indisputable qualities. It may proceed if all the quotes it contains are properly labelled as such. Aridd (talk) 14:09, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edit: I see, belatedly, that the author has addressed this on the article's talk page, indicating that the website is his own (in which case the website itself presumably doesn't contain a copyvio from the book). I'm not sure what Wikipedia's policy is in such cases, but for the avoidance of any issues, might I suggest at least a slight rewording of the lines reused from the website? Other than that, this article is definitely good to go, and a fine addition to Wikipedia. Aridd (talk) 14:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, indeed. Sorry about that. In that case, the article is good to go; interesting and well-written! (Off-line sources accepted on good faith.) Aridd (talk) 14:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Einar Schanke, Kari Diesen, Rolf Just Nilsen, Arild Feldborg, Alfred Næss (playwright)

  • Comment: I might include one or two more articles to the list. Done.
  • Reviewed: HMS Hasty (H24) ([2])

Created/expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, lots to review, so I'll start a list for what needs doing:

It's a Great Life

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Draft card burning
Article is sourced almost entirely to a TV-on-DVD sales blog written by Bill Ingra ("tvparty.com") and to IMDb, generally not regarded as a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes. What makes tvparty.com a reliable source for Wikipedia? - Dravecky (talk) 10:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Has seven sources and nearly forty links. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:47, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article does have seven cited sources but the question is are they reliable sources for the purposes of Wikipedia. I accept TVGuide.com and Alex McNeil's Total Television without question. TV.com and IMDB are not generally regarded as reliable sources since, like Wikipedia itself, they can be edited by anybody. The TVParty.com and Nostalgia Merchant are TV-on-DVD sales sites while Tim's TV Showcase appears to be a personal website. I understand that finding reliable sources online for older television shows can be hard but that doesn't change the need for such reliable third-party sources like...
  • Remenh, Anton (September 11, 1954). "'It's A Great Life' Adds New Life To TV Comedy". Chicago Daily Tribune. p. C1.
Google News is amazingly helpful in this regard with its stock of scanned newspapers and pointers to paywalled stories. Perhaps your local library has online access or microfilm that can help you out in getting the full text of articles. - Dravecky (talk) 16:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Google Books has a 2010 book called Lost Laughs of '50s and '60s Television: Thirty Sitcoms That Faded Off Screen, with a full chapter on this show. I added a cite to the book and a specific page cite to a paragraph about Frances Bavier's role on the show.[3] Hope this helps. --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:30, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Kolberg (1807)

5x expanded by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 10:46, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are several disputes regarding this article, templates notifying this have been deleted from the article by the nominator. Additional problems include presenting false historic information, attempts to conceal patricipation of Polish forces, and violations of naming rule. By proposing this nomination a version of the article is promoted that is contested an contains false information--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:16, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The above user's comment should not be taken into account - I had filed a successful SPI against them leading to a one-year block and I provided evidence against them when their EEML network was sanctioned by the arbitration committee, and thereafter they have tried, unsuccessfully, to disrupt a DYK nom of mine before.

Furthermore, since they have already been involved in editing the article, they are not allowed to review this nom. While the article is not yet GA quality, I repudiate all charges made above and direct them to the article talk page, else I ask for an uninvolved editor to review this nomination independently. Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 14:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly this reaction against AGF has become somewhat typical since the time I uncovered of Nazi publication by Skapperod in his edits on Polish history. I am just interested in neutrality and objective version of the article. I personally have nothing against a neutral editor reviewing the content and disputes-in fact I was looking forward to it, but sadly Skapperod decided to remove templates indicating that there is a dispute on the page ,and did not wait for 3O which he himself requested. I didn't knew that as editor of the article I am not allowed to comment. In any case a neutral editor for reviewing the dispute on the page would be welcomed(Skapperod stopping from removing information about the dispute would help also).Have a good day--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 15:11, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As an uninvolved editor, I've read through the article and honestly, I'm not seeing any POV issues or evidence of "presenting false historic information" as MyMoloboaaccount described above. That said though, I'm certainly not an expert on early 19th century European military history and unfortunately a vast majority of the sources are offline and/or in a foreign language that I'm not able to read. I understand that there are concerns expressed on the talk page (mostly by MyMoloboaccount) and a request for WP:3O has been made. Even so, the article has been relatively stable since the 17th. The article passes DYK criteria for date, 5x expansion and (AGF) for hook ref. The only question really is MyMoloboaaccount's concern which I can't definitively discount due to my lack of expertize in the area. The views of other editors are still needed to finish this review. AgneCheese/Wine 04:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Diosso

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Sologubovka CemeteryDr. Blofeld 17:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion, date and hook fact all check but I find the hook confusing, thinking its about the gorge, not the town, despite the fact that only "Diosso" is in blue. ALT 1 ... that the gorge near the town of Diosso is known as the "Grand Canyon of the Congo"?Thelmadatter (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Should "Congo" link to Congo Basin instead of one of the two countries known as "Congo"? --PFHLai (talk) 03:22, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

La Nueva Viga Market

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:41, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Chapter 3 of the Syrian Constitution from March 9
  • Size and date ok. The source says that "it is considered the world’s second, only exceeded by that of Tokyo in Japan." Does it mean we should add word "considered" before "second largest" in the hook?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:33, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Several Spanish language sources state that it is the second largest. I put a cite to one of them next to the English language source to be on the safe side.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry if I was not clear enough. English is not my native language. I did not say that there is a problem with references. I only proposed to "consider" adding the word "considered" in the hook (like:"is considered the second largest seafood market") because that was the word used in the source. I red in few dictionaries that when something is "considered" that means that it is not calculated on the basis of exact figures, but estimated after "giving careful thought to something". Probably it is hard to calculate the size of the fish market because it depends not only on the volumes but values, number of participants, number of different articles.... That was probably the reason for the sources to add certain limitation to the claim. The first one by adding the word "considered" and the second (on Spanish language) add by adding that it is the second on the world volume-wise.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem if the word "considered" is included although its considered a weasel word. The various Spanish language sources I used all say that it is the second largest. Only the one English language source uses the word "considered."Thelmadatter (talk) 19:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure if I am right because I maybe do not have proper sense for the English language. Here you can find 217.000 "considered" not only in the texts on wikipedia, but also in the names of the articles and articles sections. Take that in consideration :) together with the fact that "considered" is not listed in weasel words section of Wikipedia:Manual of Style (words to watch) and especially the fact that the most extensively used source on Spanish language in the article limits the claim only to "in terms of volume " (please correct me if the google translation is bad: “que se concentrarán en el segundo mercado del mundo en cuanto a volúmenes (sólo superado por Tokio)”.
Please read this section of the market article. It clearly says "Market size can be given in terms of the number of buyers and sellers in a particular market or in terms of the total exchange of money in the market, generally annually (per year)." In terms of market size, volumes of the exchanged goods are not so important as its value or the number of the participants on the market. Besides what was stated in the sources, that was/is the most important reason why I proposed to "consider" adding the word "considered" in the hook (like:"is considered the second largest seafood market"), although I don't have a problem if the word "considered" is not included. It was only the proposal supported with maybe weak arguments. Therefore this is my last comment about this nomination that I already passed.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neckar-Alb Railway

--BabbaQ (talk) 13:17, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • - Length and creation date are fine, but the article suffers from poor referencing. Please add more inline sources. Also, in a such a long article, I'd guess that you'll find a more interesting hook than this one. --Eisfbnore talk 13:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is a translation of a German article, and German Wikipedia appears to have different standards of referencing. In any event I don't have access to most of the German sources.--Grahame (talk) 06:55, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: As was pointed out to you in the Plochingen station nom, the lack of inline references is a problem, whatever the reason. It's great that you are translating articles, but you still have to have the 1 ref per paragraph minimum for DYK. Try using Google in a way that casts a wide net. Sometimes, there are some interesting hits that pop up – and be willing to look past the first page of hits, even past the second and third. Marrante (talk) 10:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pierrot lunaire (book)

Created by User:Beebuk (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article is almost entirely without inline references; the footnotes are almost entirely comments, and while it's not inappropriate to have footnoted comments, these need to be in a separate section, and if we separate footnoted comments and citations, we'll be left with nothing in this section. You've given plenty of works in the "References" section; could you please add citations to them? If you're unfamiliar with the process of citations, read WP:CITE or leave a note at my talk page. Nyttend (talk) 04:00, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The notes to me look mostly like inline refs - they read like comments but mention an author who's book is described below. They are phrased unusually but that isnt a stopper for DYK. I think this needs to be looked at again Victuallers (talk) 18:41, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stafford L. Warren

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:49, 13 March 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 02:45, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go MBelgrano (talk) 03:39, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
While Warren was an important figure during the early development of mammography, the hook as it is currently phrased is misleading. His development of the stereoscopic grid system of radiographs of the breast was not the same as the invention of mammography. Others in the field earlier than Warren should be considered. How about Albert Saloman? ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10188307 ) Please rephrase. --PFHLai (talk) 00:56, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have created an article for Albert Saloman, in hopes that this could be a double hook. Unfortunately, it is currently only 1100 chars, but there is lots of missing information that I have been unable to find (like a date of birth, even). So if someone could help out, it's possible we could get it up to 1500 for the double hook.--E♴(talk) 17:57, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

inSpiral Lounge

The inSpiral Lounge and Walkers Quay on Regent's Canal

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Bedson (talkcontribs) 03:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article is quite promotional in tone, as is this hook. Sentences such as "It took 6 weeks of building work to transform a stagnating, vacant cafe into a stylish eatery with green and cream interior and LED lighting." and "The area has now been rebuilt with a more modern market, over which inSpiral gives a commanding view." are examples of the advert-like prose that needs to be fixed up before this could be featured on the Main Page. - Dravecky (talk) 16:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've rephrased that sentence and made it less promotional where I can. Paul Bedson (talk) 01:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The tone is certainly improved but unsourced, unattributed statements such as "They used this experience to create a futuristic, environmentally conscious alternative to Starbucks with a chilled out theme and sense of community" would be great for a brochure or a glowing review but not for an encyclopedia article. In fact, the sourcing on the whole History section (the locus of much of the puffery) is quite thin. - Dravecky (talk) 01:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 14

Fly from Here

Created by Mr. Metal Head (talk), Bondegezou (talk), 28bytes (talk). Nominated by 28bytes (talk) at 18:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • just squeaks by on length, but hook is sourced and otherwise ok. I would personally shorten the hook a bit to something like

ALT1 "... that the upcoming new Yes album Fly from Here features Benoît David, a former Yes cover band vocalist?", but the proposed hook is interesting and acceptable. 63.147.59.14 (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Either hook is OK by me. 28bytes (talk) 01:34, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Trinity Avonside

View of a collapsed church.

  • Reviewed: Slow loris diff
  • Comment: Another Category I heritage item destroyed in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Minor point -- the word "subsequent" seems awk (as in ... subsequent to what?).--Epeefleche (talk) 20:12, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The word 'earthquake' in the hook pipes to 2010 Canterbury earthquake. The word 'subsequent' thus refers to the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, which is wikilinked. I'm open to suggestions for rewording this, but I can't see anything wrong with it. Schwede66 02:30, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should be understandable prior to clicking on the pipe. Most pipes aren't clicked on. And they are certainly not clicked on before the sentence is first read through without clicking any pipes, at which point the reader would be understandably puzzled. Various ways to handle, but one is to unpipe it, and smooth the language.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:09, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see. ALT1 provided. Schwede66 05:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trolleybuses in Valparaíso

An historic 1952-built trolleybus runs along a street in Valparaíso, Chile's city center in 2008

  • ... that regular public transit service in Valparaíso, Chile, is provided by historic trolleybuses (pictured) that were built some 60 years ago, by Pullman, and were declared a national monument in 2003?
  • ALT1:... that regular public transit service in Valparaíso, Chile, is provided by historic trolleybuses (pictured) that were built between 1946 and 1952 by Pullman and were declared a national monument in 2003?
  • Reviewed: Thanaleng Railway Station ([6])
  • Comment: The image, if included, can and should be cropped for DYK. However, if this is done (on a temporary basis for Main Page) by whomever prepares the final version, I recommend cropping the original to no smaller than 550 by 550 pixels (before thumbnailed to 100px for Main Page), and with a vertical center at the level of the driver's head (no crop from top of original). The last time I had a photo in DYK, another editor did that cropping during the final prep, and I suppose that's the usual practice, but if it would be helpful for me to do that, someone please let me know.

Created by SJ Morg (talk). Self nom at 13:14, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why don't you crop the picture yourself and upload it as a derivative of the file that's already on Commons? That way, it's exactly the way you want it. If you do this for future nominations, it might pay to include the comment with your nomination that it's a cropped version of a photo that the article uses, as that might not be obvious. Schwede66 19:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Below is another alt, offered in case the reviewer feels it's important that the full title of the new article be shown and made bold. Advantages to the first hooks I suggested are that they indicate that these vehicles are in regular public service (not just some sort of special tourist service), and also that, if the image is used, placement of the "(pictured)" note is easy with those hook wordings, but would be difficult to do in a clear manner with this ALT2 hook wording.
  • ALT2:... that among the trolleybuses in Valparaíso, Chile, are several vehicles that were built some 60 years ago, by Pullman-Standard in the United States, and declared a Chilean national monument in 2003? SJ Morg (talk) 13:30, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Belatedly thought of a hook that's arguably more "hooky" and still fits in all the key points:

United States v. Lee

View of a two-story Greek Revival hilltop home built in 1831 by Robert E. Lee

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just for fun: The date on which G.W.P.C. Lee transferred Arlington National Cemetery back to the U.S. federal government is March 31. If this passes DYK muster, and anyone thinks this should be held until that anniversary date, I am totally amenable to that. (I didn't realize the anniversary date was coming when I started this article.) - Tim1965 (talk) 20:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where's Raymond?/The Ray Bolger Show

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT . . . that Irene Ryan, seven years before The Beverly Hillbillies, appeared as a shy schoolteacher on a 1955 episode of ABC's The Ray Bolger Show?
Reviewed Osborne Cowles
  • Approved for the first hook only, not the alt. Length of article, date of creation and source check out for the first hook. The alt is problematic because there is nothing in the article or the source material to support the claim that Ryan made her sitcom "debut" on this show. She was a guest star, but there's no source that it was her debut. Cbl62 (talk) 21:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I thought I had corrected hook 2, but it must not have transmitted. It was either her second or third sitcom appearance according to IMDB. I change it again if the first is not allowed. Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:59, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is IMDB an reliable source? Racepacket (talk) 16:56, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
IMDB is sometimes reliable, sometimes not -- read [Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 40#IMDB, again|this noticeboard discussion] for perspective. I also wonder about the Classic TV Archive, which is the main source for the Steve Reeves hook. --Orlady (talk) 14:36, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In response to Orlady's question, I may have acted too quickly in approving this. The Classic TV Archive site looked pretty solid when I did the review, but on looking further, I can find no information on it. If anyone has any basis for suggesting this site is or is not reliable, please speak up. Since that site is the sole source for the hook fact, I'm (at least temporarily) withdrawing my approval of the hook. Happy to re-approve once the reliability of the source has been verified. Cbl62 (talk) 16:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St John the Baptist, Asenovgrad

View of a narrow medieval church topping a cliff

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 07:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


A Many Splendored Thing (Homicide: Life on the Street)

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and hook check out, but hook needs an inline reference to its source in the article. In general, the statements in the article lack sources. Racepacket (talk) 04:00, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The hook already has an inline reference to its source. Actually, it has two. The sentence in question is "The Forman case was inspired by a real-life murder that took place in Anne Arundel County, Maryland, in which a 23-year-old man shot another man 10 times in a doughnut shop when the victim refused to sell the shooter his pen." Also, FYI, everything that requires sources in this article is sourced. The plot has no sources because, per WP:TVPLOT, they are not required; and the lead has no citations because, per WP:LEADCITE, they are not required except in special cases as long as the info is sourced in the body of the article. Everything in the body is sourced by inline citations. — Hunter Kahn 04:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Perceval Armitage, Rose Chibambo

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out for both articles. Moonraker2 (talk) 05:28, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Might improve the hook if it gave a hint as to in what capacity Armitage was acting.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that when Nyasaland Governor Robert Perceval Armitage declared a state of emergency, Rose Chibambo was allowed to give birth to her baby before going to jail?

I am not sure if a DYK hook has to make it obvious what the article is about, or could be a bit mysterious. Dunno. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's certainly not the entire article. But reader interest is probably piqued more by some sort of context, distinguishing this from someone who is governor of Nyasaland declaring a state of emergency, rather than ... say ... someone on the Starship Enterprise. IMHO.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alt1 also checks out. I prefer the original hook, but whoever moves this to the queue can choose between them. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:42, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Manor Farm, Ruislip

The Great Barn

Created by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mercado Jamaica, Mexico City

Cut flowers at Mercado Jamaica

  • ... that the Mercado Jamica market in Mexico City offers about 5,000 species of flowers and ornamental plants, including some native species taken from the wild?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 22:16, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date are all good, but I had to place a footnote after every hook fact in the article (I was only able to do that because a single reference was used). AGF on the source :) Toдor Boжinov 07:59, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ThanksThelmadatter (talk) 16:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wilson's Arch

Black and white photo of two standing men, below an archway, facing a number of seated men and women

Created by NearTheZoo (talk). Nominated by --Epeefleche (talk) 07:14, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Konbaung-Hanthawaddy War

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Constance (1846)

Created by Tentontunic (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've formatted the hook to include the article, but I'm afraid it is inaccurate. Compound engines had been used in marine propulsion since 1854. What you could say though is that Constance was the first Royal Navy vessel driven by a compound engine, which is accurate. At the moment though the article is vague about what it is actually claiming. Benea (talk) 23:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edited to reflect what you have said. Tentontunic (talk) 23:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dai-ichi (disambiguation)

  • ... dai-ichi (第一) is a compound, modifier phrase of Japanese origin, meaning number one, or first?

Created by Swliv (talk). Self nom 16 March 2011 (UTC)

  • This is one of the better dab pages I have ever seen. It is well-structured, encyclopedic and informative. If it had references, I'd be inclined to support it. It's ~2600 characters (w/o spaces) if you include the bulleted items which are arguably content. And to answer the big question: no, I did not know that.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It now has references, and is modified to:

  • ... dai-ichi (第一) is a compound, modifier phrase of Japanese origin, meaning number one, or first?


Thanks for the feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swliv (talkcontribs) 08:06, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the references, although nowadays we generally ask that every paragraph have at least one reference. Beyond that, though, the article's prose content is still too short. Information that is presented in a list format doesn't count towards the qualifying characters for DYK. As it is, I count 1086 characters of prose; we'll need at least 414 more for this one to be eligible. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 13:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I get something over 1200 with references and lists and heds out; but for now at least I can't see other directions to expand; it is a short-subject (I didn't know of the 1500 min.); it is a disamb.; obviously, topicality seemed worthwhile, first to create the article and then to nominate it here; (and I do expect there are many more User:NortyNorts out there; and I deeply appreciate his endorsement); the article is better for the critiques and subsequent improvements since its appearance here; but I for the time at least withdraw the self-nom.; I will try to add more references, partic. on "ni" and "san"; other ideas welcomed, maybe my talk page better; thanks again. Swliv (talk) 20:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it was a good shot at DYK.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:39, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Roosevelt Corollary

5x expanded by Aliceembers (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 15

HMS Hyperion (H97)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook length, article length, grammar seem to check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith. --Starstriker7(Talk) 00:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't that supposed to be 19 December 1939? Manxruler (talk) 21:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sayyida al Hurra

  • Reviewed: William A. Reppy ([8])
  • Comment: The article is nominated for April Fools' Day, but in case it is not promoted there, I'm nominating it here too.

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 05:32, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles F. Watkins

Photograph of Charles Watkins cropped from 1898 Michigan Wolverines baseball team portrait

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 18:01, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Ukraine at the Paralympics. See diff [9]. Cbl62 (talk) 15:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
AGF on offline hook reference; date, length and PD status of image confirmed. Good to go pending QPQ review. 28bytes (talk) 18:39, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed QPQ review, everything else still good to go. 28bytes (talk) 15:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Giordano (ice hockey coach)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, hook, and length all check out. This is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 02:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is by far the most interesting fact for a hook. Anything else would be considerably less intriguing. The fact is directly supported by the comments of the athletic director and was discussed at length in the authoritative history of the Michigan hockey program, a widely circulated book titled "Blue Ice." Cbl62 (talk) 18:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can we mention his winning Coach of the Year honors merely 3 years earlier? This way the hook is not all negative. --PFHLai (talk) 01:54, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How about the following alternative hook:
* alt 1 ... that John Giordano was named collegiate Coach of the Year by The Hockey News in 1981 and fired three years later when all 22 players signed a petition listing their grievances against him? Cbl62 (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wilf Martin

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 15:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date check out. AGFing on the offline sources, I added another book source for one of the claims that also backs the "played for..." part of the hook but that was only for good measure. Regards SoWhy 10:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Belovo Basilica

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Will Henry Stevens

Monochrome studio portrait of Will Henry Stevens

Created by Jordan Ahlers (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 12:45, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The most interesting part of the hook (in my mind at least) is not mentioned in the article. There is no mention of egg in the article, only tempera. I realize that tempera can be made from egg, but looking at its article it doesn't have to be "usually a glutinous material such as egg yolk or some other size". Being that the ref isn't available online I can't double check to see if the subject used egg or not. Can this be double checked and clarified in the article? J04n(talk page) 00:07, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point. Yes, as you see, I was trying to make the tag 'interesting' - but I accept what you're saying, that tempera might not be egg. I will try and check with the main author of the article, and/or try to check it myself, and respond ASAP. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  01:11, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
User talk:Jordan Ahlers#Will_Henry_Stevens  Chzz  ►  04:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am unable to check the original book reference, but have found a reference on a museum website, which states of one of his paintings, The back is labeled in pencil, "No. 3 Egg Emulsion on card-board." - so I've added the specific mention of egg, in the article, with that ref. Is that OK? (I'd hope, the ref is probably unnecessary if covered by the book - but I hope this solves the immediate problem)  Chzz  ►  14:37, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like SYNTH to me, other opinions? J04n(talk page) 00:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's a few characters too long, hooks cannot exceed 200 characters, I'm counting 204, why not:
Alt2 ... artist Will Henry Stevens has a covered bridge named after him? J04n(talk page) 02:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not very happy with the sourcing of that section. Much as I hate to challenge my own darned DYK nom...I have to point this out; I considered the "bridge" stuff, and whilst I'm confident it is "true" I'm not so sure it is V/RS)  Chzz  ►  10:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry I haven't responded until now... Thank you Chzz, for your assistance with this article and thank you for the DYK nomination. I checked the original book reference(s) for mention of egg, and only found "tempera" noted. The Estate has archived records of Stevens' paintings signed on the back "No. 4 - Egg Emulsion, Will Henry Stevens, Newcomb School of Art, New Orleans, LA" and "No. 17. Egg tempera. Will H. Stevens, Newcomb School of Art, New Orleans" along with others noted as egg emulsion and oil, though I can't find anything in print that states this. These works are in private collections and we do not have a photograph of the signature w/ these notes.Jordan Ahlers (talk) 15:56, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Fitch (politician)

Thomas Fitch in 1865 from Harper's Monthly Magazine

5x expanded by btphelps (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:40, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alt1
Alt2
  • ... that Thomas Fitch was the lead attorney in defending Brigham Young, and other LDS church leaders when they were arrested for "lewd and lascivious cohabitatmion"?
Alt3
Minor comment -- the hook is slightly ambiguous, as it leaves open the possibility that the church leaders were a) along w/Fitch in defending BY, vs. b) along with BY, in being defended.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:21, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 16:50, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lectionary 300

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Needs more content. This may work better:
Looks OK. Verne Equinox (talk) 02:33, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think "C.E." rather than "†" would be standard.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen A. Caldwell

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article shows how in the early 20th century in the Deep South people could launch education careers without degrees in hand. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed Leslie R. Fairn
Perhaps so, but becoming a school principal without classroom experience or a degree in his time probably wasn't that remarkable and isn't very interesting nor notable. It appears that lengthy tenure as dean of the LSU Junior Division was perhaps his most notable accomplishment. But what did he do during his 12 year tenure? If you want to make the hook more inviting, try to work in some other things he did that were more consequential. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 21:05, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT... that Louisiana educator Stephen A. Caldwell's A Banking History of Louisiana (reprinted 1980), examines the state's spiraling debt crisis during Reconstrucion?
In addition to prior comments, facts in the hook are not substantiated by citations, specifically, the date he completed his college degree. The ALT hook is still not very compelling. Remember, the DYK guidelines state that the hook should be sufficiently interesting "to a wide audience." — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the article is sufficiently fascinating and the original hook is fantastic. (I'd drop the "in 1911" to leave the reader a reason to click the link and learn more.) However, the hook fact is not directly cited with an inline reference and the article is sourced entirely to a biographical dictionary entry and a single book written by the subject himself, not enough to sustain a challenge to the subject's notability. - Dravecky (talk) 10:23, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Work (Jimmy Eat World song)

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prose 3933 / 709 = 5.547x expansion and > 1500; RS citations for both factoids in hook; hook 177 chars; seems in order. Dl2000 (talk) 02:58, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Backatown

Lenny Kravitz dressed in black, wearing sunglasses, four earrings in his left ear and a nosering

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]



James C. Spencer

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Charles Stetson Wheeler

Fujinuma Dam

Create/nom--NortyNort (Holla) 12:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 16

Biopreservation

Created by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SMS König Wilhelm

A large, dark gray warship with three tall masts sits in harbor, surrounded by several smaller vessels

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Conway

Pete Conway, pitcher for the Detroit Wolverines from 1886 to 1888

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Wyntoon

A massive stone building of seven stories height amid taller conifers

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 03:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Giant Baba Memorial Spectacular

Created by User:71.184.32.31 (talk). Nominated by Armbrust (talk) at 19:42, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sheffield Attercliffe by-election, 1909

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 16:57, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: 1869 Atlantic hurricane season
  • Length, date OK. Offline Churchill quote AGF. But there is no ref after the "27.5% of the vote" part of the hook. I guess that this comes from the F. W. S. Craig source, but that is not clear. In fact, if you can support "this remains the lowest ever winning share in a single-member by-election" with a reliable ref, this might make an even better hook. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:03, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good point - the Craig reference was on the figures in the table, but not in the text. I've now added it in there, too. Unfortunately, I don't have a source which clearly gives the lowest share fact, it's just arrived at by a scan through Craig. Warofdreams talk 21:17, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that doesn't fit in with the DYK "rules".--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:48, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Possible alternative:

The Rules of Sociological Method

The Rules of the Sociological Method

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Turkish Union of Xanthi
  • Looks good to me, although this is my first review. Interesting book and article. Seems to have gone from c. 500 to c. 3000 characters, which is a 5x expansion, dated correctly. Sources all ok with a couple I couldn't read accepted in good faith. Suggest keeping the picture I've added to the hook and checking and perhaps creating the reference page to the Sociology Book genre. This has nothing to do with DYK? eligibility, I just think it would make a good genre! Plus I don't like red links. Paul Bedson (talk) 17:55, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Stetson Wheeler

Monochrome portrait, a man shown from the shoulder up, facing right, wearing a coat and tie, dark hair and dark mustache on a light-skinned face

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moody 4B

James Moody with bassist Todd Coolman in background

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 00:15, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Slow loris

A small, young slow loris is gripped by its limbs while its front teeth are cut with fingernail cutter

  • Reviewed: Ryan Kalish ([17])
  • Comment: This article has been developed as part of a WikiProject Mammals collaboration. The article had a fair amount of content, and depending on how you count the expansion, we are somewhere between 4.5x and 5x. (Using the preferred method described in the rules, I get 5x. There were concerns about the possibility of reaching 5x expansion with this article, and they were asked at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Expansion question. Regardless of how the expansion is ultimately scored, I ask for a special case of leniency given the importance of this article. (It is currently getting hammered due to a new viral video on YouTube.) – VisionHolder « talk » 21:46, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very good work indeed. Regarding the expansion, I use the tool in the leftmost column. The expansion started on 10 March (which is the date under which this should thus have been nominated; please note this for future nominations) with this edit. The version prior to this had 6522 B of readable prose. The version right now is shown as having 30 kB of readable prose, so that gives an expansion of about 4.6, which I for one am happy with given that you started out with an already substantial article. Or maybe you could claim the expansion starting on 13 March, as there has only been 14 B added in the meantime (with a bit of edit warring going on in between). That might be more relevant, as going by the rules, you have to do the expansion within 5 days, which the latter date meets. (I guess this discussion shows why the rules states that you should nominate under the date that an expansion is started, as it takes the guess work out for the reviewer). The hook fact is confirmed by the Sydney Morning Herald article. I'll also post on the DYK discussion page that I've IARed this despite it being a tad short. Schwede66 18:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • My apologies for the incorrect placement. I keep forgetting that the nomination is for the day you started, which was actually 13 March 2011. As for the "edit warring", are you referring to the 2 instances of vandalism that got reverted? Otherwise, thanks for the pass. If you want, I will move the nomination to the 13th, where it belongs. – VisionHolder « talk » 19:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, sorry. Wrong terminology then; I had just seen the repeated reverts, but didn't check what was going on. I don't think there's much point in moving the nomination, now that it's been reviewed. Schwede66 19:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the slow lorises that are illegally caught and traded as exotic pets have their front teeth cut out (pictured) due to fear of their toxic bite?
Slight alteration with the hook—important to let people know that this trade is illegal. Please use this hook. – VisionHolder « talk » 12:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The National Geographic source confirms the additional hook fact. I've struck out the original hook for clarity. Schwede66 17:59, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Shipman

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Three for the Road (TV series)

  • ... that in 1975, CBS broadcast the series, Three for the Road, with Alex Rocco as a widowed father, writer, and photographer touring the USA with his two teenaged sons?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed John Howell & Son
Too short at 1437 characters and largely sourced to IMDb. - Dravecky (talk) 10:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Revised and lengthened ALT:. . . that despite the failure of CBS's Three for the Road, the 1975 series propelled Leif Garrett into the role of a teen idol?

John Howell & Son

19th-century Gothic Revival stone church with square tower

Created by Storye book (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason for writing out "Senior" and "Junior" after the names of the two Howells, instead of Sr., and Jr.? Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hooks check out, otherwise Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The two men were never called by those terms except for once in a 19th-century newspaper, where it was spelled "Junior". The terms are rarely used in the UK, and are seen as American English. Common usage in the UK is to give different nicknames to the two men (e.g. Jack and Johnny). Employees might have called them Mister Howell and Young Mister Howell, or the Guvnor and Master Howell. I had to find some way of differentiating between the two men in the article, but there is no satisfactory way. You are welcome to change the spelling if you wish, but if you do, you will make it look as if they were Americans.--Storye book (talk) 19:18, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:56, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've just created another article Edward Alexander Wyon which could make a double DYK as follows:
ALT 1: ... that John Howell, who built St John's Church, Hastings, Sussex, England (pictured) to the design of Edward Alexander Wyon, arrived in town as a poor boy and became the mayor?--Storye book (talk) 17:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 2: ... that John Howell, who built St John's Church, Hastings, England (pictured) to the design of E.A. Wyon, arrived in town as a poor boy and became the mayor? (slightly shorter hook) --Storye book (talk) 18:05, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Claude Arnulphy

Claude Arnulphy, portrait dated 1746

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. Date and length are good, image is old enough for PD, offline ref accepted in GF. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


First Unitarian Church (Cincinnati, Ohio)

A black-and-white portrait of a young man in formal dress

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 04:03, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and hook-citation check out. Nice photographic portrait, too. NB: (1) I'm assuming that "carven" is a US expression? It would be "carved" in the UK; (2) I removed the stub notice from the discussion page.--Storye book (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Ryan Kalish

  • ... that Boston Red Sox baseball player Ryan Kalish didn’t miss a single pitch he swung at in his senior year of high school baseball?

5x expanded and self-nom by --Epeefleche (talk) 03:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry E. Chambers

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Thomas Fitch (politician). Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:39, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Actually, the source does not say that. It says that Wilson was one of his "instructors".--Epeefleche (talk) 03:46, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Change made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:05, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Changed "later" to "future": the former word can sound as if he later had Wilson as an instructor, rather than the correct meaning that Wilson later became president. Nyttend (talk) 12:28, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Madi

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Labweh

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article is newly created, it is more than long enough, and the hook is cited. On those ends, it's good to go. However, the nominator has not reviewed any other DYK hooks himself, so he's ineligible for now. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have just 4 credits to date but quite a number of active nominations. Starting to review hooks now would be a show of good faith that one of these nominations will pass in the near future. - Dravecky (talk) 10:30, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 17

Russian battleship Imperator Pavel I

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Hansa (1872)

  • ... that the German ironclad SMS Hansa's service career was cut short due to severe corrosion in her hull?

Created by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 13:06, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Honda CBR250R (2011)

A blue red and white sport bike on a red carpet

Created by Dbratland (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I edited the hook. What do you mean by "premium" sport bike? Bejinhan talks 12:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • See "The CBR250R, Honda's new motorcycle for the entry-level European bike market and a premium offering for the Asian ones…"[20] and "… , the Honda CBR250R will threaten every 'performance' bike in India, from the Karizma right up to the Ninja."[21] Also "The CBR250R was designed primarily for the Thai and Indian markets, and in India especially where very basic 125cc and 150cc workhorses are the rule, a 250 single with the little Honda’s 90mph performance really is a sports bike." [22]. There are also more expensive bikes for the very wealthy, but they are far out of the mainstream, often with near-100% tariffs on top of prices outside the means of nearly every normal person. I mentioned it in a footnote but don't get too far into it. --Dbratland (talk) 19:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Alexander Briger

Created by JackofOz (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:56, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Albanian Sanjak

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 12:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and hook verified. Tweaked the hook a little to imply that there may be earlier registers that have been lost. Also remember to reclass the article as a non-stub because stubs are not allowed at DYK :) Toдor Boжinov 11:36, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Clarke (baseball)

Henry Tefft Clarke, Jr., cropped from Michigan Wolverines baseball team portrait

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Becky Edelsohn. See diff here. Cbl62 (talk) 22:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Fab Five (film)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. However, the source article from Variety says "Sunday's ESPN broadcast of 'The Fab Five' became the network's highest-rated documentary ever." This does not appear to be the same as "the highest rated ESPN films production ever." If the hook is tweaked a bit, this should be OK. Cbl62 (talk) 17:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(alt hook) ... that Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in The Fab Five, which was the highest rated ESPN documentary ever, was The New York Times' most highly emailed story?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Biophilia (album)

  • ... that Björk's forthcoming album Biophilia was "partly recorded" on an iPad and will be released in the form of a series of apps?

Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is good to go, but the nominator has not reviewed another nomination and the article is very slightly too short according to DYKcheck. BigDom 20:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jukebox Jury

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Gary Rader

Mo Li Hua

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Davis Square statues

Length, date, hook, and refs check out fine. Good work. Qrsdogg (talk) 21:49, 17 March 2011 (UTC) [reply]

All Saints Church, West Stourmouth

A flint church with a red tied roof and a tower at the west end, seen from the southeast

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


1869 Atlantic hurricane season

Created by Hurricanehink (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's an image in the article if you'd want to include it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, it might be hard to see the hook in the source provided. An easy way for the reviewer to see this site, which shows no season prior to 1869 had 10 storms. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:15, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article is good and hook checks out but, as you say, the reference for the hook isn't clear from the source without explanation. I suggest expanding the reference to include an explanation of how to interpret the source, possibly using the link you provide above. I've also reworked the third sentence, as I found it a little unclear. I advise against using the image as, while it is great in the article, the tracks are barely visible at 100x100px. Warofdreams talk 17:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good call about the image, and I added a better source that's so much easier to read. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:56, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent - the new source is much clearer. Good work! Warofdreams talk 20:11, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Davis Square statues

A sculpture resembling an elderly man and woman walking down the street with trees and buildings in the background.

Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Xochimilco Ecological Park and Plant Market

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length fine. Offline source AGF. --E♴(talk) 23:56, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find the hook a bit too cryptic. Suggest:

Montauk Point land claim

Chief Stephen Talkhouse

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nominator has far more than 5 DYK credits but has not named the article they have reviewed nor provided a diff for that review. This should not be passed until this has been resolved. - Dravecky (talk) 10:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Al Szolack

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:13, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dates, length, references, and review all check out. It's an excellent hook and a wonderful article. I only wish a suitable photo was available to feature with this hook. - Dravecky (talk) 10:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brown Willy Cairns

Chief Stephen Talkhouse

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 06:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the review. I've given it some consideration and agree, it is the better image and I've replaced it. The other one is great too though as if you full size it, you can see Brown Willy South Cairn quite clearly along the ridge. Still, the peak is what every wants to see I guess. Paul Bedson (talk) 23:30, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 18

Krishnapuram Palace

SanskritBible

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 14:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed :Polish State Forests. Sorry if the nom is a little late, hope its still OK.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:00, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Machan (film)

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk), Mister fidget (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

military art

  • ... that in the 17th century tapestry became the main medium for official military art, with the same designs sometimes slightly adapted to sell to both sides (1708 example pictured)?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 22:48, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where's the 5x expansion? —  AjaxSmack  00:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't you make it that? It was this before. Johnbod (talk) 00:31, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your query and comment. —  AjaxSmack  01:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
C'mon, to go from 4,800 to 22,200 might not e exactly 5 times, but in case of such a huge jump, I'd say that checks out. Length OK Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 01:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Am I looking at the wrong history? Before 18 March, the article was 26,038 bytes and now it's 47,514 bytes. I'm looking at this edit history. —  AjaxSmack  01:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are looking at the right history, but we're not counting bytes, but prose-text character using this tool. Bytes can be a good first hint, but when the initial article has a long See Also/Further Reading/External Links-tail it becomes inaccurate: 1+longlist expanded to 5+longlist is 5xexpanded. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 02:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The tool "DYK check" says that the article has been expanded 4.85x... not quite 5x. Binksternet (talk) 02:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks. —  AjaxSmack  03:11, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks guys! I think the Further reading was longer than the article before I got started! I have until tomorrow to add a bit more, so I'll put this on hold for now. Sorry about that. Johnbod (talk) 03:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, (it's gone from 47,514 to 55,920 bytes overall since the above, so must be ok now). The proper character count I now make 27,952, well over 5x the 4,800 Seb_az86556 gives for the "before" figure. Johnbod (talk) 16:37, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The picture is from the set at Blenheim Palace the reference cites, so one later altered for the other side. Johnbod (talk) 13:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo Schneider AG

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 22:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am still working on this. A website that used to be blocked is no longer and it's in English and has a lot of information that I want to add to the article. Also, there are two other pages that I have only barely looked at that I also want to read, so this is definitely just the beginiing. I was coming up against the DYK nomination time limit, so I went ahead and entered my nom, but I still have work to do on the article. Most of what I have is just the translation, which was very vague on some details where I now have more precise info and a lot of pertinent info was simply lacking. I won't be able to do much today, but will be back on this tomorrow. Marrante (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mining in Sierra Leone

diamond miners

Created/expanded by Kaly99 (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Donka Hospital

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Affair

  • ... that while inspecting the cargo of the Victoria, Israeli naval commandos found 50 tons of weapons concealed beneath bags of cotton and lentils from Syria?

Created by Tzu Zha Men (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A-VCS-tec Challenge

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Schleifstein

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 10:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • moving story, sourced. But I suggest for clarity for readers without context
ALT1: ... that Joseph Schleifstein arrived at the Buchenwald concentration camp at age two and survived because his father hid him in a sack? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the compliment and for the revised hook. Marrante (talk) 03:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hanzell Vineyards

  • Comment: Online sources (FN#2 and FN#3) in lead.

Created by Aharding2 (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 06:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Friend Hitler

Created by Bill william compton (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 20:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. I have taken the liberty of editing the hook slightly to make it more consistent with the source. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:49, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plochingen station

Created by Grahamec (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 19:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Right off the bat, the article is way short of the minimum citations for DYK, at least one per paragraph. The article at first glance looks to be long enough, but before anyone spends time checking out the hook, etc., that problem needs to be fixed. Marrante (talk) 11:07, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This is a translation of a German article, and German Wikipedia appears to have different standards of referencing. In any event I don't have access to most of the German sources.--Grahame (talk) 06:59, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am well familiar with the all-too frequent German articles with the offline bibliography at the end and no clue as to what can or should be used where. For a long time, all I did was translate German articles for the English Wikipedia. You start out with two strikes against you (unless you're smart and work on the translation in user space, which I never do). You're racing against the 5-day time frame and then you generally have no option but to turn the bibliography into "Further reading" sections. The DYK standard is minimum one per paragraph. If you can't provide them, this nomination won't qualify. The problem also will not spare you from having your articles flagged as needing more references. People here will accept references they can't read as "AGF" (accepted in good faith), but ya gotta come up with something. Insufficient citations will be tolerated in the main space, but not on the main page. Sorry! Marrante (talk) 12:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't add this tick mark before because I wanted you to see there is room and time for you to see if you can find some sources for your article, but am adding it now. This article does not currently qualify for DYK, but you are encouraged to look for refs so that it will qualify. Marrante (talk) 22:37, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tip: I know this won't work for the current article, but in future, if you translate more from the German Wikipedia, be sure to look at their external links because quite often, I find they can be turned into inline references. Marrante (talk) 10:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is this Google.de search for Bahnhof Plochingen of any use? Mjroots (talk) 09:21, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is why I never rate my translations above "start" class and never nominate them for DYK.--Grahame (talk) 14:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You set your sights way too low, Grahame. Also, I had thought that rating an article was a task to be done by someone other than the author. Please correct me, someone, if I'm wrong. Marrante (talk) 18:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coldham Hall

  • ... that following its construction in 1574, Coldham Hall remained the property of the Rookwood family for almost three centuries?

Created by Finnish Gas (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 19:10, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saint-Inglevert Airfield

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Becky Edelsohn

Created by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk), Malik Shabazz (talk). Nominated by Kaldari (talk) at 23:40, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
alt hook: ... that Becky Edelsohn was the first woman to attempt a hunger strike in the United States?

  • Length, Date fine. Sourcing good on the original hook. As for the other, in the sourcing, all I was able to find was that she was attempting a hunger strike- not that she was the first to. So for now, thats a . --E♴(talk) 19:39, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added a cropped PD image of the arrest which I think could be suitable for use on DYK. I also gave a second look-over to the length, date and sourcing for the first hook -- all look fine. Cbl62 (talk) 22:16, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cayuga Nature Center

Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Petit Rouge

Aosta Valley in northwest Italy

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Old St Peter and St Paul's Church, Albury

A stone church seen from the south, showing a transept with a large window, and a tower surmounted by a cupola

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Stoning murder of Israeli teens

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:40, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gaman (term)

Created/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 14:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 19

Ruprecht of the Palatinate (Archbishop of Cologne)

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alecton discoidalis

A photograph of brown larva with head inside the shell of a snail.

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 23:57, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aboriginal title in the Taney Court

Map of Sac and Fox Half-Breed Tract

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nearer My God to Thee (Homicide: Life on the Street)

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 05:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- Hook's references are offline, but external links confirmed Hofmann's debut. Article is good. Chris (talk) 14:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Portrait of Pére Tanguy

Portrait of Pére Tanguy by Vincent van Gogh, 1887-88.

Created by CaroleHenson (talk). Nominated by Chimino (talk) at 00:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article has some serious WP:POV, WP:PEACOCK, WP:WEASEL, WP:ATTR issues, and some referencing ones as well. Here is a sample: "Vincent explored the various influences, molding them into a style that was uniquely his own. In the two years, from 1886 through 1888 spent working in Paris, Vincent emerged as a sophisticated, thoughtful and provoking artist. This painting demonstrates his journey of creativity of that period." Or: "Tanguy's image, both soft and light, appears to be calm and contemplative." Or: "Like a benevolent father, Pére Tanguy shared his food and money with artists and showed their paintings with pride. Prior to owning his store, he served on a prison ship, convicted of subversion, likely making him a very interesting, idealistic character for his post-Impressionist clientele." Such ad-hoc art criticism or essay writing in a wikipedia article needs to either toned down into something objective, replaced with quotes attributed to reliable (and relevant) sources, or removed. Otherwise, it's an editorial voice taking guesses. I couldn't tell you if the article will still meet the lenght etc. criteria for DYK if this is accomplished, but the issue will have to be addressed, and not just for DYK's sake. Dahn (talk) 09:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm a little confused, but I'm sure we'll get there. I thought the intention is to: 1) take information from a source, 2) reword it enough so it's not a direct quote but still carries the intention of the author and 3) pull it together with information from several sources so that it provides a logical stream of information someone can follow. It seems by your comments (but again I'm confused) that what is needed is putting the references in a more inline fashion (i.e., a lot more citations in the reference section, but a very direct sourcing of bits of information. Is that really what you're getting at?--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I started making changes to Portrait of Pére Tanguy with the "Maurer" reference, inserting the inline quotes directly at the sentence level. If I continue with that, will that address your concerns? Thanks so much! I'm sure that your intention is really to be helpful, while holding a high standard for the articles.--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, it is certainly better, but I think it would be even more helpful if you attribute the opinions to the authors you cite. For instance, instead of "the painting is calm and soft", which is a subjective opinion (unwittingly) made to look objective (like "the painting is 20 by 40 cm" or smthg), we could have "art critic [insert name] calls the painting 'calm and soft' " etc. See my point? (Note: this also applies to descriptions of van Gogh or Tanguy, some of which are probably superfluous.) Dahn (talk) 17:02, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, Carole, the three-point description of the editing requirements you make above is pretty accurate, and you have done a pretty good job following them so far; the only problem is that, while following them, you mixed a bit of opinion into a bit of fact, being probably not yet familiarized with WP:ATTR etc. I feel it is a rookie mistake, and I'm sure this you'll only improve with time. Dahn (talk) 17:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1) I think it's word choice here. The comments that were made about Van Gogh's work at this time is that there was a marked change in his style from one that had been previously very harsh. I don't remember the previous words - but they were synonyms of calm and soft. Plus, the intention of the painting was to evoke a sense of serenity that van Gogh found in the Japanese prints. I have to run right now, but later today I'll look up the exact words and either work on word choice of attribute the exact words to the author. 2) I'm a little lost on where all you'd want verbiage to be attributed. Everywhere? Only sentences that you find troubling? Better direction would be very much appreciated!!! I'm still someone here, fairly new to paintings and just trying to learn the ropes.--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm mainly talking about the statements that are not strictly factual, but present opinions - all sorts of opinions. Since these are clearly attributable to sources (you did get them from the sources) it is in any way indicated (and better) to quote and attribute them to those who state them. This should happen throughout the article, but not every phrase has that problem. See for instance WP:NPOV#Explanation of the neutral point of view. Dahn (talk) 17:21, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I made some changes to the article - and think we should be closer now. Mind taking a look?--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:56, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I have taken a look. First off, the French word for father is "père", not "pére". I have changed the hook above, fixed it in the article and re-named the article. I fixed the inconsistent use of the artist's name, sometimes "Van Gogh," sometimes "van Gogh" and sometimes "Vincent," inappropriate for an encyclopedia, which is not familiar, but objective. The article now uses "van Gogh" throughout, except when beginning a sentence, following the title of the article on the artist. Also, the "per" so-and-so business does not seem appropriate to an encyclopedic article and I have removed the use of them, both as ill-worded and possibly unclear to many non-native English speakers, especially where Per is a man's name, as in a number of northern European countries. Also, the references using Google books mostly do not go to the pages cited, but to pages of hits with thumbnails of covers. I suspect this is a problem. I shortened the first Google book URL to what it needed to be (you can remove the yellow highlights and you don't need to include the mile-long URL) but did not bother with the other books because it was too much work to fix them and it's something the article author can and should do herself. Dahn can determine if the article has otherwise been fixed enough for DYK. I just took a look because I have always loved these paintings. Marrante (talk) 22:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, you did a nice job! Thanks for ensuring the right name and moving the article to a correctly titled page. Yep, I have been incorrectly using "Van Gogh" and trying to get out of that habit. I like using a person's first name, but I get your point - and that's good direction going forward for me! Regarding the links, I don't know what's the matter with the links - because it works ok for me (maybe browers used??). I think, though, I can take just part of the url - and get rid of the query stuff and maybe that will work better for others. I'll check it out. Regarding the DYK, it was nice of someone to nominate me. It's not as important to me, though, as learning what I have in the past couple of days to write better articles going forward. Thanks for your patience, support and nods for future reference! VERY much appreciated!--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is not exactly up to WP:MOS standards (for instance, see WP:LEAD on how the opening paragraph[s] should relate to the text), but it is up to DYK ones, and the fixes still needed are too in-depth for now. I have verified the hook and the date, but I need someone to help with the character count - I'm not sure what to count (how to exclude references etc), and if this article makes the cut when size is considered. (And many thanks to Marrante for his pertinent comments.) Dahn (talk) 08:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

*Hook character count is 137, using this handy tool and this tool verifies that the article was started by CaroleHenson on March 19, 2011 and is currently at 4434 characters of readable prose, in other words, well over the minimum length for DYK. Marrante (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks Dahn, Marrante and especially Chimino for nominating the article.
Dahn, I love to research and write, likely obvious by how many articles I've worked on since I started here. Although this is just a hobby, my intention is to try and do my best when writing so I'm wondering and I have to say I'm surprised by: "and the fixes still needed are too in-depth for now" Can you give me a hint at what you mean: is there an article that you think is a good model for visual arts? Oh, one that you've reviewed recently for DYK that you think is a good model for reference? --CaroleHenson (talk) 14:55, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Responded on your talk page. Dahn (talk) 15:36, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
btw, another way to get a character count is to highlight all the text and copy it into Word/other. (I copy text to Word as part of final edits to check spelling errors.)--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:00, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I do something like that as well, but DYK counts exclude references, image text, wiki script etc., and the article has many of all these categories, that I needed to remove by hand. Dahn (talk) 15:36, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome and as Dahn said, the tool is much easier because other means will not exclude all that has to be excluded to arrive at the count that counts. Marrante (talk) 16:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fiano (grape)

Fiano grapes before veraison

  • Reviewed: Chapter 3 of the Syrian Constitution
  • Comment: Primary refs offline Robinson (FN#7) and Hazan (FN#8) cites in the History section but I provided some additional online refs in the lead to assist with verification

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Rufus Wainwright (album)

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Novotel Grand Hotel de L'Independance, Conakry, Atelier LWD and Guy Lagneau

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:30, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed :Jurassic Museum of AsturiasDr. Blofeld 11:33, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Dunne O'Connell

Created by Billmckern (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 03:34, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jurassic Museum of Asturias

Skeleton casts of Tyrannosaurus mounted in a mating position

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length date and hook verified. If you changed it to "Dinosaurs having sex" it would likely attract over 5000 hits...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:32, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Gerald Driscoll III

  • ... that although he never competed in the final round of an America’s Cup race, yachtsman Gerry Driscoll permanently changed the way teams prepare for that event?

Created by MelanieN (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moreton Bay Pile Light

An hexagonal structure mounted on piles, topped by a lantern

5x expanded by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 22:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Volkmar Wentzel

A man in a pressure suit leaps from the nacelle of a balloon at 102,800 feet (31,300 m) to make a skydive

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glanosuchus

Drawing of the skull of Glanosuchus from the side, top, and bottom

5x expanded by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Morag Bellingham

  • ... that Brian McFlarne in his book The Oxford companion to Australian film described Morag Bellingham of Home and Away as a "soap opera super-bitch"?

Created by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've altered the hook as requested.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:05, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rudolf Arnold Nieberding

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linni Meister

Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 15:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Digital Education Revolution

Kevin Rudd

Created by Ancient Apparition (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Boone Kirkman

  • ... that ex-boxer Boone Kirkman earned his nickname because of his habits while hunting with his father?

5x expanded by Mobile Snail (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, 5x expansion, and hook check out. Smokeybjb (talk) 20:29, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse my ignorance, but is it deliberate that "his fighting nickname" links to a dab page? Schwede66 02:04, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. You were right. Unfortunately there is no article for the name/nickname "Boone". MobileSnail 02:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 20

Deep Freeze (film)

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk), TheMovieBuff (talk). Self nom at 23:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reviewed #FBI Atlanta Field Office ( diff )

Timothy Brown (hornist)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandru Tzigara-Samurcaş

Photograph of Tzigara-Samurcas
  • Reviewed: Portrait of Pére Tanguy ([37])
  • Comment: I don't do alttext: I find it unencyclopedic and subjective. If anyone feels s/he can better summarize the image, please go ahead.

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 09:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Harvest Festival (Parks and Recreation)

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 05:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vespaiola

Wasps feeding on grapes

  • Reviewed: Al Karama, United Arab Emirates
  • Comment: Primary refs are several offline sources in the lead and Viticulture section but I included an online google books link (FN#3) to assist in verification

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I can't find any problems with this; the online sources back up the information in the article, the print sources look reliable, and the date and the 8.5x expansion are verified. Nyttend (talk) 01:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Skel Roach

  • ... that during an eleven-year professional baseball career, German-born Rudolph "Skel" Roach played for teams known as the Prohibitionists, Omahogs, Orphans and Siwashes?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kepler-9d

5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: HMS Hyperion (H97) --Starstriker7(Talk) 00:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Triune, Tennessee

  • Comment: Bostick Female Academy, which is also linked in this hook, is a new article created by Doncram that does not yet meet DYK criteria.

5x expanded by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook all verified. However, while the subject is interesting in the article, the hook on the surface seems pretty obvious, that a school burned down during the Civil War wouldn't be rebuilt until a while later. What do you think of this alt hook?
  • ALT1: ... that Triune, Tennessee was named after the local Methodist church, and not the other way around? Yoninah (talk) 20:11, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
for original hook and ALT1. Length, date etc. check out. --Zoeperkoe (talk) 20:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Yoninah, as you can see from the edit times, we apparently checked this page at the same time. I wrote my review, hit preview, saw that there was an ALT1 (but apparently for some reason did not see the question mark sign), checked that in the refs as well and saw that both were supported, so I gave it a good to go sign. I had no intent to "steal" this check from you or interfere in your review, so I apologize if you felt that way. Apparently it's busy here; before I found this one I checked another DYK and when I hit preview on that one, someone else also beat me to it (but there I saw it in time). For clarity, I crossed out my comment; I will obviously leave this to you. Anyway, there were no bad intentions here! -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 21:44, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I appreciate Yoninah's comment about the delay being rather obvious. What might be most unusual is that the school was replaced at all. However, I'm not sure that people today are aware of how long and difficult the U.S. recovery from the American Civil War was. In this instance, the 30-year delay was due in part to the fact that the Bostick estate couldn't be settled until the U.S. Supreme Court issued a decision on an issue related to the will; I think that's astonishing, but the effect of the litigation on the settlement of the estate is not well enough sourced to be used at DYK. The ALT1 hook is supported by a source, but I'm a bit less comfortable with it because it's based on only one source -- only one other source that I found even mentions the origin of the name, and that other source was just someone's ungrounded speculation that the name must indicate that people in the community were very religious. --Orlady (talk) 22:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Høibakk

A young man with beret and glasses, wearing a woolen pullover

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Rufus Wainwright (album) [39]--Eisfbnore talk 21:51, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wondered about that, too. And here's some revised wording for the first hook:
Perhaps "entrepreneur", since he started several firms? I also prefer ALT3, though 'tis IMHO only an alteration of the original hook. It surprises me that the ALT2 isn't supported by the cited sources, please have a look at the last page (82) of the English-language journal article (the PDF). The lightning incident is also supported in the bottom of the Aftenposten online piece, check Google Translate. Best, Eisfbnore talk 14:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The lightning hook is OK now. I still don't see it explicitly stated in the English-language article, but the newly added Aftenposten reference citation supports it. --Orlady (talk) 16:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good, but I think ALT3 is the best. There is one problem though: the user who took the image states on the file page that: "Please credit this photo Frode Inge Helland in the immediate vicinity of the image". We don't credit photos on the Main Page, do we? Eisfbnore talk 08:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abderrahim Goumri

5x expanded by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Edward Stuart, Count Roehenstart

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am a bit mystified by this comment, Bejinhan. If you are questioning the title of the article, that is not really a matter for DYK, but you could pursue it on the article's talk page. If you are questioning the correct form of the title of nobility "Count Roehenstart" to be used in the hook, then there is no correct form of it, as it was simply invented by Roehenstart, but in any event "Count Roehenstart" is part of the name as used in most of the article's citations. Moonraker2 (talk) 22:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I asked Jimbo about this, see User_talk:Jimbo_Wales# British heraldry.
Because that discussion was inconclusive, I have now asked on refdesk, see Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#British_heraldry
Therefore, please wait a short time, to see what answers we get. Thanks, Bejinhan talks 10:44, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree with waiting a bit. The question is whether or not the guy was really a Count (likely not) and if not, then whatever the title of the article should be, we should avoid simply identifying him in the DYK hook as a Count.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 13:03, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No harm in the name being shortened in the hook, but I have amended it to Charles Edward Roehenstart to avoid confusion with his grandfather. Moonraker2 (talk) 13:10, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Alexander Wyon

19th-century Gothic Revival stone church with square tower

Created by Storye book (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This makes a double DYK with John Howell & Son, which was created on 16 March and has been accepted for DYK but is not yet in the queue. --Storye book (talk) 17:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: James Dunne O'Connell --Storye book (talk) 17:32, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 2: ... that John Howell, who built St John's Church, Hastings, England (pictured) to the design of E.A. Wyon, arrived in town as a poor boy and became the mayor? (slightly shorter hook) --Storye book (talk) 17:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I have added the same image here (from the John Howell & Son submission), so that the "pictured" bit makes sense.--Storye book (talk) 08:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


, OK for double DYK. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine at the Paralympics

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. Sources verify that Ukraine has finished in the Top 6 at each of the Paralympics starting in 2004. Accordingly, I think the hook is OK. I initially thought a more precise phrasing (i.e., Top 6 since 2004) would be better, but Aridd's phrasing is concise and accurate, so I think it's fine. Cbl62 (talk) 15:39, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Napua Stevens

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:16, 20 March 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Morag BellinghamDr. Blofeld 13:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. Source for the hook fact checks out. There was no citation for the final paragraph about her death, but I've added one, so that's fine now too. Cbl62 (talk) 15:54, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Robles

Created by SirFozzie (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The date and length are fine, but the sourcing is not up to DYK standards (nothing but bare url's). If the sourcing is improved, this is a very interesting topic, and I'd be happy to take a second look. Cbl62 (talk) 16:07, 20 March 2011 (UTC)::* I also tweaked the hook to put the article title in bold and to use lower-case "wrestling." Cbl62 (talk) 16:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, one. Red Brick School (Franklin, Massachusetts). SirFozzie (talk) 19:37, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William A. Reppy

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford Terrace Baptist Church

View of a badly cracked church frontage held up by props.

  • Reviewed: Kari Diesen (diff)
  • Comment: This one was a Category II listed heritage building. Sigh. The photo, when viewed in a larger size than this 100px, is very powerful.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on March 21

Frank Sexton (baseball)

Photograph of Frank Sexton cropped from 1895 Michigan Wolverines baseball team portrait

  • ... that Michigan baseball coach Frank Sexton was confronted with a knife, a cane and an arrest warrant after declaring a forfeit when Indiana refused to continue play due to darkness?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]



Sign of the Kiwi

View of a stone bungalow and a stone pillar in a hill setting amidst some landscaping.

  • Reviewed: Arild Feldborg diff
  • Comment: The article got deleted in 2008 as not being notable, despite it being a Category I heritage building! I got it undeleted and expanded it.

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Intraguild predation

  • Comment: I'm not entirely sure how to phrase this; I'm trying to summarise the sentence in the article that reads "Hemipteran insects and larval lacewings both prey upon aphids, but the competing predators can cause high enough mortality among the lacewings to effectively relieve predation upon the aphids." Any better ideas will be welcomed.

5x expanded by Cbangley (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 03:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phoebe Gilman

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 00:50, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1953 Suva earthquake

Created by Mikenorton (talk), Qrfqr (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook source verified. —  AjaxSmack  01:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gremlins (Atari 2600)

  • ... that in the rare 1984 video game Gremlins, the player must either prevent the furry Mogwai from eating the hamburgers at the bottom of the screen, or shoot them after they transform into gremlins?

5x expanded by Cuchullain (talk), 28bytes (talk). Nominated by 28bytes (talk) at 20:56, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shishman of Vidin

Photograph of a medieval stone castle with two rectangular towers in the foreground

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


List of Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is clearly stated in the second sentence of the article and in the first footnote. Date, length, hook ref all verified. I tweaked the hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:40, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Kaczmarski

Created by Jtalledo (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Renton Nicholson

5x expanded by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • According to my count this is not quite a 5x expansion, on 5 March it was 4615 characters and now it is 20223 characters which comes out to almost a 4.4x expansion. This is a pretty extensive article that was substantially improved on by Qrsdogg so I am inclined to overlook this slight shortcoming but would like a second opinion by a more experienced reviewer. Other than that the hook checks out and am happy to AGF the ref. J04n(talk page) 03:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I think what happened was I didn't count the numbered list of his published works as prose. Not sure if that was the right approach or not though. I'll try to take another look at the article and sources tomorrow and see if there's potential for more expansion. Thanks, Qrsdogg (talk) 03:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Wasilewski

Created by Rotki (talk). Self nom at 19:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Elmo Courts

photo of an orange high rise building

  • Reviewed: Rolf Just Nilsen (diff)
  • Comment: While I'm writing this, the background sound is from the demolition of neighbour's house...

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 18:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 03:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


St Thomas' Church, East Shefford

A small simple church, largely rendered with a tiled roof, a brick porch, and a bellcote at the west end

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


List of Olympic venues in figure skating

The Olympic Arena hosted all of the figure skating events for the 1932 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid.

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Danmark (ship)

A. C. Green photo of the Danmark

Created by Mangoe (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Off line hook AGF good to go. Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gerald Barry (Irish journalist)

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chucho's Steps

Austrian keyboardist Joe Zawinul

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FAIR USE Act

5x expanded by Amphiggins (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 22

Bank Street Historic District (Waterbury, Connecticut)

Four attached brick buildings with different styles of decoration viewed from across a city street

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dan Dugan (audio engineer)

Black electronic device with green and red LEDs sits atop an audio mixing console

  • ... that frustration in mixing all of the microphones in a musical production of Hair was what sparked Dan Dugan's invention of the automixer (example pictured)?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 23:40, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


King Charles Spaniel

A black and white headshot of a small dog with a stubby nose and big dark eyes.

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Frank Smith (UK politician)

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and hook verified. Good to go. Found hook reference in Google Books (Encyclopedia of Modern Christian Politics: L-Z By Roy Palmer Domenico, page 516) as is correctly referenced in article.--Doug Coldwell talk 16:43, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

La Lagunilla Market, Mexico City

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Second World War British airborne battalions


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:14, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its referenced in the note at the end of the sentence. The airborne forces patch was chosen by Lieutenant General Frederick Browning. The emblem was designed in May 1942 by Major Edward Seago, to be worn on the arms of all Airborne soldiers. Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:32, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, there it is. I got confused between notes and cites.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:09, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Salaì

Picture of a nude Mona Lisa

Created/expanded by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 09:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Entropezites and Mycetophagites

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 09:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, let's break this down.
  • Entropezites - Date, length and hook checked.
  • Mycetophagites - Date, length and hook checked. One of the sources is offline, AGF-ing it.
Bejinhan talks 10:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Criss-cross algorithm

Created by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


A (three-dimensional) cube

Created by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Great Reality TV Swindle

  • ... that in 2002, a British man working in a bookstore conned 30 people into leaving their homes and quitting their jobs?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1999 Blayais Nuclear Power Plant flood

Created by Ivolocy (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Susie Fishbein

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 01:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The length and date-of-creation are fine. The article appears to be well-documented. There were in-line citations to the hook, which I checked at linked on-line sources. The hook conforms to DLB and DYK criteria, being positive and carefully documented (positive about a living person). A slight concern is that the article is written in a somewhat breezy manner, and some more copy editing is strongly suggested: I expanded "demos" to "demonstrations", for example. Please remember that WP is a global enterprise, and so it should be written for all English speakers, including those who lack knowledge of American slang. However, these are suggestions rather than red flags. Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 03:31, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phantom, Rocker & Slick

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Paulding County Carnegie Library

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is correctly referenced and accepted on good faith as the ref is offline. Length and age OK. Looks good to go. Ivolocy (talk) 02:20, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 23

Max Weber Sr.

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 20:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Gremlins (Atari 2600) from March 21
  • Perhaps somebody can make the hook more interesting. It seems that the fight is actually the most famous incident in Weber Sr. life, since his son, Weber Jr., is so much more famous - but I couldn't find a cite for such interpretation of the hook. Perhaps somebody with knowledge of German could help... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie (fragrance)

Created by Indah88 (talk). Nominated by WikiDan61 (talk) at 18:34, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kris Trajanovski

Created by Hack (talk). Self nom at 13:34, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrath of the Titans

Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lenght, date, hook ok & verified. Good to go.Alexikoua (talk) 14:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Kita

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 10:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Harley Warrick

Created by Wikipelli (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shame... I didn't consider that and I particularly liked that fact. :( How about..... Wikipelli Talk 11:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive a first time self-nom? I went back to check on the reference. Both Amazon[55] and WorldCat[56] indicate the reference for the hook was not published by the author but by Fulcrum Publishing. My first reference relied only on Google books which had the publisher information wrong. If everything else checks out, I'd like to use the first DYK nom. Thanks for patience.. I'll get better. Wikipelli Talk 14:58, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ray William Johnson

Created by User:Milowent (talk). Nominated by Ashershow1 (talk) at 02:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Men's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year, List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year, List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:10, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby Lowe

Photograph of baseball player Bobby "Link" Lowe

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


FBI Atlanta Field Office

Lewis Baley

  • ... that the first director of the Atlanta Division of the FBI was Lewis J. Baley (pictured)?

Created by SunCountryGuy01 (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The subsections "1920s and 30s" and "Post 9/11 period" contain very close paraphrasing of this FBI source, which you have not cited at all. These should be rewritten in your own words, and clearly cited to that page. The source is PD, but it still needs to be summarized by you to avoid plagiarism.
  • Also, the history has a big gap - 1940 - 2001. The source above covers those periods.
  • Source three is used three times for information it does not contain. Is this a mislink?
The Interior (Talk) 05:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Walter M. Lowrey

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Machan (film)
Length, date check out. Dewikilinked historian and 1970 and reworded hook for clarity. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 21:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

István Csoknyai

5x expanded by Thehoboclown (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stele of the Vultures

A stone slab showing soldiers marching with spears and shields

5x expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size and date ok (note: "Former redirects, stubs, or other short articles in which the prose portion has been expanded fivefold or more within the last five days are also acceptable as "new" articles." Still, if we apply D9: "Five days old" really means about eight days in Swahili :) . That is, if your article was created or expanded after the oldest date listed in Template talk:Did you know#Older nominations, it may still be approved." The basis for measuring the expansion is March 8. Still, it is expended more than fivefold). References for the hook are OK.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Polish State Forests

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anton Wilhelm Brøgger (printer)

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 17:46, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook looks good, date is good, however need more characters to meet minimum for DYK. I count only 1374 characters for prose text. Please increase size to over 1500 characters, the minimum.--Doug Coldwell talk 18:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Follow On (hymn)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 17:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the hook reference in article, that apparently is suppose to be in first line of "Present day" sub-section. Counting the characters I come up with 1476, just shy of the 1500 minimum required.--Doug Coldwell talk 17:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well the hook ref is the BBC source and yes it is in the present day subsection. As for the character count, when I ran it through that javascript thing it came up with 1,600something (taking away the headings and the refs). I've added a few more words to hopefully fill it to satisfaction. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks for adding on more characters. That will work. I am still a little stumped however on the hook: that the music to the hymn Follow On was later adopted by Rangers F.C. as the music for their anthem, Follow Follow. Does that BBC source ([5]) say that someplace? Where is that wording? If it does, then I'll be fine with it.--Doug Coldwell talk 20:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is mentioned onwards from 37:15 in the video. The quote is that "Like most football songs of the 20th Centuary it (Follow Follow) was originally a hymn associated with the Salvation Army, I would like to invite you to stand to sing the original words of the hymn, Follow on" There is a version of it on it's own but unfortunatly it's a Youtube video not released by the BBC so I can't use that as a source even though I'd like to as it contains the main elements which I'm trying to use as the source. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pelican Pete

Scrulpture of world's largest pelican

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seems fine. Suggestions: 1) add unit conversion template, so the American feet can be meanigful to the metric using-world. 2) Category is missing date of establishment. Also 3) add assessment template(s) on talk. 4) I see there are geo coordinates in the article - please use one of the geo coordinates templates so the article is linked to Google Maps and other tools. Lastly, 5) is there an monument infobox? I think there is, this is worth checking. None of those are needed for DYKing, but they would significantly improve the article. Please let me know if you have any questions about how to do that. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Made all the improvements suggested.--Doug Coldwell talk 22:16, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hezekiah Holland (minister)

The true effigies of Hezekiah Holland, Minister of the Gospell at Sutton Valence in Kent

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Hammerhead (Jeff Beck song)

Jeff Beck playing his guitar

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


James R. Whelan

Created by Yaksar (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just changed "forced out of the paper" to "dismissed from the paper" - which I think reads better. Hope you approve. Cheers John Hill (talk) 10:29, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but for some reason I thought the exact wording of the hook had to be in the article. I can't remember where I got this idea from. Can anyone please straighten me out on this matter? Many thanks, John Hill (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Zeal and Activity, American Standard (John Adams)

Created by AjaxSmack (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chee Dodge

5x expanded by Seb az86556 (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Bohdan Pomahač

Created by User:Cimmerian praetor (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Lennox Pawan

Created by John Hill (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think there may be a punctuation issue here, since the did you know sentence has a period and the non-question sentence has a question mark. This could probably be fixed by combining the sentences (or preferably just cutting out the part about his birth, it's not particularly hook-ish). I'll put what I'm talking about below.--Yaksar (let's chat) 21:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1:... that Dr. Joseph Lennox Pawan M.B.E. was the first person to show that rabies could be spread by vampire bats to other animals and humans?

Articles created/expanded on March 24

Everett Bowman

  • ... that Everett Bowman was the founder of the Cowboys' Turtles Association, the first organization of professional rodeo cowboys?

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glee: The Music Presents The Warblers

Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Myth of Skanderbeg

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Wildlife of the Falkland Islands

Painting of the only native mammal of the Falkland Islands, the Warrah, which went extinct in the mid-19th century

  • Comment: Created this at the same time as improving Falkland Islands, so some initial content was taken from that, although I'm sure this is now 5x more. Information taken from this article will be included in the Falkland Islands article.

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self nom at 18:49, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Metal ions in aqueous solution

Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Howard (basketball)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Walkden High School

  • ... that Walkden High School sent home 200 pupils were turned away because they failed to meet the dress code?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by User:Doh5678 (talk). Nominated by User:Doh5678 (talk) at 19:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


1892–93 Small Heath F.C. season

Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

  • ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. Ive opened a larger discussion here; Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Rhacophorus_vampyrus. Its not just that the article may be different, but also that dyk is in the spirit of new articles or recently expanded ones. As such (I feel) queing an article for 10 months is misleading our readers since it is a violation of both leading principles of dyk. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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