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==Definite article==
If this group have devised their own variation on English grammar, then it ought to be explained in the article. --[[User:Multivitamin|Multivitamin]] 16:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'll write a footnote to clarify usage - good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of that before. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 17:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

==Allison==
Are you sure the song "Allison" is about Mose Allison? I vaguely recall reading an interview back about the time the album was released in which Black Francis said it was somehow inspired by James Allison and the [[Allison Engine Company]]. I also heard it suggested somewhere that it has something to do with [[Jerry Allison|Jerry "Ivan" Allison]], who played with Buddy Holly and co-wrote "That'll Be The Day" and "Peggy Sue". Unfortunately I can't find a reference which has Francis/Black/Thompson giving a definite explanantion. In the absence of something definitive it is possible the Mose Allison thing was a conclusion that someone jumped to at some point in the past and which has just got copied and repeated so many times that people wrongly assume it's definitive.
[[User:Circusandmagicfan|Circusandmagicfan]] 11:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
:[http://aleceiffel.free.fr/index_alec.html] says it's about Mose Allison (from a ''Q'' article). [http://aleceiffel.free.fr/aliens.html] is transcribed from a ''Rolling Stone'' interview, and says the song is about [[Mose Allison]]. We can say beyond doubt that it's about Mose Allison. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 11:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

== Discography ==
The [[Template:Infobox musical artist|Infobox musical artist]] could use verifiable dates for all four record labels listed, and the [[Template:Pixies|band template]] needs release dates for albums and singles. Without such data, I find the band career hard to track, as would many visitors to Wikipedia. - [[User:Schmerker120|B.C.Schmerker]] 04:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
:Surely the information is already available in the prose? I see no other (featured) band article that does this; perhaps you could point me towards a few examples? [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 06:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::Release dates, at least in selected discographies in articles for bands with many releases, are somewhat irrelevant. Oh, they'd be nice to have if someone wants to type them out, but I doubt they're mandatory. At most the year of release should be listed. They cetainly don't belong in the template, though. That would look very messy (I'm thinking mainly of the RHCP band template). [[User:WesleyDodds|WesleyDodds]] 10:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

== The ==
I'm pretty sure this band should be referred to as just pixies without 'the'. See all their album covers. It's correct in the title but not elsewhere in the article. See the two live images, one captioned 'Pixies in concert in Greece...' and the other 'The Pixies in concert in Kansas City' --[[User:Neon white|Neon white]] 01:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
:There's been discussion about this before in the talk page archives. While the band's name is officially "Pixies", the band itself always says "the Pixies" when using the name in a sentence. [[User:WesleyDodds|WesleyDodds]] 03:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
::There are examples of both usages. Nevertheless it should really be consistant across the article. --[[User:Neon white|Neon white]] 15:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Could you point out others? I've fixed the image caption. (Note that "the only Pixies album" and similar is fine). [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 16:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::: Well firstly the title of the page is just Pixies. Maybe the naming thing needs a mention. After the name was shortened to simply 'pixies' how soon did people add 'the' to it? Maybe something like 'they are now almost exclusively known as the pixies except on album covers. Interestingly [[Doves]] never aquired a 'the' --[[User:Neon white|Neon white]] 21:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::There's a footnote virtually at the start. It's acquired one because band members refer to themselves as part of "the Pixies"; so we reflect such usage. To clarify: it's the Pixies, not The Pixies. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 22:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::: I dont see any footnote. --[[User:Neon white|Neon white]] 23:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pixies#_note-0|Here]]. It's after the first instance of the band's name. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 08:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

::::::::[[Thee Headcoats]] and [[Thee Hypnotics]] must make you people froth at the mouth <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.125.110.223|69.125.110.223]] ([[User talk:69.125.110.223|talk]]) 21:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
This discussion is now aged but the underlying issue doesn't seem to have been resolved. If the band's name is "Pixies" as the article title suggests then all of the "the Pixies" references in the article should be amended. We wouldn't write "the U2" or "the Bon Jovi", so why are we writing "the Pixies"? And if "The Pixies" is the accepted name of the band then the article should be renamed. For the record, I don't think it matters how the band refer to themselves in interviews; unless they officially release their music under the name "The Pixies" then the band's name, factually, is "Pixies". [[User:danno uk|<font color="#339900">'''da'''</font><font color="#009900">'''nn'''</font><font color="#006600">'''o'''</font>]]_[[User talk:Danno_uk|<font color="#336633">'''u'''</font><font color="#003300">'''k'''</font>]] 21:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
:Other wiki articles, such as those on the individual albums, refer to the band without the definite article. I think the fact that the band themselves may sometimes use it doesn't really come into it - Mick Jagger et al often refer to "The Stones", not "The Rolling Stones", and George Harrison used to refer to The Beatles as "The Fabs", etc. [[User:MarkRae|MarkRae]] ([[User talk:MarkRae|talk]]) 19:25, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

==Loud and quiet==
The loud soft idea come from the Who's Tommy LP. They were the masters. The Pixies just recycled this notion.== dynamics ==


"Pixies songs typically feature hushed, restrained verses, and explosive, wailing choruses"

i realise it might be a little pedantic but some songs have loud verses and quiet choruses, such as 'gouge away' and 'where is my mind' so i find this statment a bit general.
It's not that important but one of the reasons i like the pixies so much is that they did the loud quiet dynamics both ways while all the artists that copied(in a sence) this technique only did loud chouses. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.74.193.131|79.74.193.131]] ([[User talk:79.74.193.131|talk]]) 20:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hence the word "typically". There of course were exceptions, but in general, Pixies songs were noted for the above dynamic. I'll look further into things though. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 20:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Misinformed ==
Black Francis is a misnomer; his real name is Charles Thompson. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.26.100.31|76.26.100.31]] ([[User talk:76.26.100.31|talk]]) 02:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)</small>

not really <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Petchboo|Petchboo]] ([[User talk:Petchboo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Petchboo|contribs]]) 15:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Origen ==
The article itself refers to the meeting of F.B*(B.F.) & J.S at UM Amherst. This is where they started to play. This is where the band """was formed.""" Some Brit deciding s/he knows all about the geography of Massachusetts, with a citation to a couple music magazines, well, this does not fly. It happened at UMass, .cf the article. Umass' flagship is located in Amherst. F.B.(B.F ) met J.S. at UMass. They played there. B.F w/o J.S != Pixies.

And like I said earlier, we have bigger things to worry about than Limeys' appraisal of geography.
:No. Black Francis and Joey Santiago state they formed the Pixies in Jan 1985 in Boston. This is from ''Fool the World'', a book written about the Pixies.

:I haven't seen you provide a citation to a reliable source that states otherwise. Could you please provide one? (A personal attack involving my current location is not too convincing.) [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 22:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:We're arguing the first time the word "Pixies" was uttered, vs. when music started to be made. It's a stupid argument, especially, since we're both right. Fine. Boston it is. "History

'''''Formation'''
The Pixies' history began when" is good enough for me.''


Because I'm not <<currently located>> overseas
:Ok. The first Pixies songs were composed when Francis was a teenager ("Here Comes Your Man" and "Velvety Instrumental Version"), so the band could be formed in California by that definition. We stick to when the band officially forms. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] 09:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

:: Sounds to me like they were formed in Amherst, but the article is vague about location. Where was the warehouse they worked in together, Boston or Amherst? [[Special:Contributions/76.105.136.241|76.105.136.241]] ([[User talk:76.105.136.241|talk]]) 19:22, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

==date of establishment==

I'm sorry to say that but Pixies established in 1986, not 1985. The pair Santiago-Thompson were not Pixies. Not yet. Charles Thompson got back from Puerto Rico in march 1986, in order to start a rock'n'roll band. You can find this information in every good book about Pixies.

[[User:Red-E|Red-E]] ([[User talk:Red-E|talk]]) 19:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:No. The band was formed in January 1985 by Santiago and Francis (who spent 1984 working). Deal joined two weeks later, and Lovering joined later. All sourced to ''Fool the World: The Oral History of a Band Called Pixies'' (a good book). What's your source for claiming Francis returned in March 1986? (which I've never read in over a year of research on the band). [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] ([[User talk:CloudNine|talk]]) 19:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

:In the ''Spin'' article, Santiago says: "He wrote me a couple of letters from Puerto Rico. One of them said, 'Screw the academics, let's just start the damn band!' So he came back and we drove to UMass. It was the last day to withdraw to get your full tuition back, and I got my money back and we drove to Boston." It doesn't list a year, though. [[User:WesleyDodds|WesleyDodds]] ([[User talk:WesleyDodds|talk]]) 00:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

::So, CloudNine, that's all you read about Pixies? Is ''Fool The World'' your only source? I read some books with Santiago and Francis statements too. For example, Francis explained he returned to Boston instead of going to New-Zealand to observe Halley's comet... By the beginning of 1986. Oh, where did I read that? Books were in Spanish and French, so no need to give you the titles. But they're good too, believe me. [[User:Red-E|Red-E]] ([[User talk:Red-E|talk]]) 18:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:::No. I have access to other sources, including ''Doolittle 33 1/3'', and a number of magazine and web archives. I can tell you that Francis and Santiago returned to Boston and worked during 1984. Could you give a citation for your statement? I can read French and Spanish to an acceptable level. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] ([[User talk:CloudNine|talk]]) 19:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Ben Sisario, the author of ''Doolittle'' in the 33 1/3 series. I've never posted anything here before, so I'm not sure if this is the way it's usually done, but I'd like to make a formal request to the Wiki community to fix the error, repeated on every Pixies-related entry, that the band was founded in 1985. That is not correct; the band was founded in 1986. I wrote a blog post about it (http://charmicarmicat.blogspot.com/2008/10/please-correct-pixies-entries-on.html), which I will copy here:

Two weeks ago Wikipedia ran an Article of the Day on David Lovering, which alerted me to a big error that appears to have reproduced itself across every Pixies-related page on Wikipedia (and therefore all over the Internet). I would like to request that these pages be corrected to reflect the following:

<span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">The Pixies began in 1986, not 1985.</span></span>

How do we know this?</p><ul><li><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">It’s a long-established fact, documented in hundreds of articles written while the band was active.</span></span> To research my book, and because I have been an avid Pixies fan since 1989, I have collected a significant archive of press clippings and other paperwork; some of this was provided to me by the band. The record overwhelmingly shows that the band was founded in early 1986, when Charles Thompson (a.k.a. Black Francis, a.k.a. Frank Black) and Joey Santiago dropped out of UMass Amherst and moved to Boston. </li>
<li><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">The band members confirm it.</span></span> After seeing the error on Wikipedia, I wrote to Charles and Joey, and both told me that the band was indeed founded in 1986, not 1985. The band's former manager, who had been with them from before <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Come On Pilgrim</span> up to the reunion tour, also confirmed it to me. Here is what Joey wrote in an email:<p></p><blockquote><span style="font-style:italic;">Hey Ben,
We started in 1986. We both graduated High School in 83.
Charles and I dropped out after our first semester as juniors from UMass.
I know it was winter because I remember pissing in the snow when we drove into Boston very late at night. So we most likely moved to Boston in January of 86.</span></blockquote></li>
<li><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">It lines up with historical events.</span></span> One of the best known stories of the early days is that Charles started the band with money his father gave him to see Halley’s Comet in New Zealand. Halley’s Comet, which passes near Earth every 75 to 76 years, was last visible in early 1986.

Also, it is well established that in March 1987, when the Pixies recorded “The Purple Tape” — a set of 17 songs, which would be edited down to 8 for their first record, <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Come On Pilgrim</span> — the full band had not been together terribly long. Early articles put it at roughly six months, suggesting an origin of mid-’86.

Let’s look again at Charles and Joey’s time in school: Both graduated high school in 1983, and completed their freshman (fall ’83-spring ’84) and sophomore (fall ’84-spring ’85) years at UMass, then dropped out after the first semester of their junior year (fall ’85). That brings us to early 1986.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">There’s no reliable source for 1985.</span></span> The Pixies-related pages on Wikipedia cite the same source for calling 1985 their origin: Josh Frank and Caryn Ganz’s oral history, <span style="font-style:italic;">Fool the World</span>. (In fact, even other sources cited to support the this claim actually say 1986, such as the Allmusic biography.) But that book has many errors and contradictions. Part of this may be due to the fact that, as an oral history, it relies on people’s memories, which can be faulty; people also lie. Regardless, there’s no excuse for not checking basic facts.

In <span style="font-style:italic;">Fool the World</span>, Deal says she got married at age 24 and then moved to Boston, and at one point states: “I got to Boston in January ’85.” But she also says: “So what year did I get married? Eighty-fuckin’ four, ’85 maybe?” Deal was born on June 10, 1961, so in January 1985 she was only 23. Most likely she got married in 1985 and moved to Boston in early 1986.

Other interviews in the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Fool the World</span> contradict Deal about the 1985 claim. For example, John Murphy, her ex-husband (on early Pixies releases, Deal was credited as “Mrs. John Murphy”), remembers that early rehearsals took place the year the Red Sox lost the world series. That was 1986. (They played the Mets, of course.)</li></ul><p>Why am I asking someone else to make the correction? Two reasons. First, as the author of a book on the Pixies, I do not want my motives to be misunderstood. I have nothing against <span style="font-style:italic;">Fool the World</span>, which is a very interesting read; it’s just not a reliable source of facts. Second, I want to make sure this is all on the record for anyone to question or dispute, because I fear that — Wikipedia being what it is — if I simply correct the entries without explanation someone would just change them back 10 seconds later.

The Pixies are one of the most important bands of the last 25 years, and a fact as critical as the year they began must be correct. If entries on the Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin had such a detail wrong, it would be fixed faster than you can say “catalog sales.”

Oh, and one more thing. Joey had a special request:</p><blockquote><span style="font-style:italic;">Btw, if you are going to correct that can you also add that my birthday is June 10 not the 11th?</span></blockquote><p>(Yup, same birthday as Kim and Kelley.)
:Fixed where I've found the mistake. I honestly thought I could trust ''Fool the World'' on such a critical date (even if it is a oral history); it seems I was wrong. How embarrassing. Anyhow, thanks for taking the effort to write this, even though I don't edit this page much anymore, I hope I still fixed your concern within an acceptable amount of time. I've also fixed Santiago's birthday. Looking over it, are there any other statements that might be wrong/questionable? Thanks. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] ([[User talk:CloudNine|talk]]) 09:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

::Finally, I was right! Who said justice was dead? CloudNine, next time I think you should be a little bit less disdainful with me, even if I'm a French Pixies fan... Apologize! [[User:Red-E|Red-E]] ([[User talk:Red-E|talk]]) 12:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of all users and editors we apologise for doubting your lack of non-sanity.[[User:BrcBourke|BrcBourke]] ([[User talk:BrcBourke|talk]]) 23:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Final Split ==

In an interview with Colin Murray on BBC Radio 1 in 2007 Charles stated that he thought the pixies were finally over and they would not be recording any new material or playing live again. Although this isn't an official confirmation that the band has split up again, it should probably be mentioned in the "new album" section of the article, or better yet, just have that section removed now seeing as it's pretty irrelevent, unless all it says is "There was discussion of them recording a new album in blah blah blah but later nothing happened" etc. [[Special:Contributions/217.44.103.85|217.44.103.85]] ([[User talk:217.44.103.85|talk]]) 06:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. I took out the new album section, culled a few of those references to refer to it as an abortive attempt, and clarified that Black is now stating that the reunion is over. Changed years active as well. Does anyone really disagree? [[User:Anazgnos|Anazgnos]] ([[User talk:Anazgnos|talk]]) 23:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Interesting. Has there been official confirmation? For now, I think we should mark the band as inactive. I think the verb tenses need changing as well. [[User:CloudNine|CloudNine]] ([[User talk:CloudNine|talk]]) 01:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
:::This is incorrect, Pixies have done two tours - back to back - in my country just recently so if they have than it was after that I think.


:::[[Special:Contributions/124.148.34.52|124.148.34.52]] ([[User talk:124.148.34.52|talk]]) 14:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)…

== Hüsker Dü ==

I know Hüsker Dü is mentioned as an influence at least twice, but they aren't mentioned at all in the "Influences" section. Shouldn't it be included in there? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jowerkatz|Jowerkatz]] ([[User talk:Jowerkatz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jowerkatz|contribs]]) 01:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Attack Site? ==

The removal and re-insertion of the link to the "official unofficial" band site as an "attack site" caught my eye due to all my involvement in the [[User:Dtobias/Why BADSITES is bad policy|BADSITES wars]], and I tried the link myself, only to find that my browser (Firefox 3.0, with the Google toolbar) blocked the site as an "attack site", linking for explanation to a Google-maintained page saying that the site was found to be attempting to infect computers with malware. In other words, "attack site" isn't being used with the internal Wikipedia-politics sense that has been so controversial, but in a more mainstream way of referring to a malware (virus/trojan/etc.) site. Since my access to the site was blocked (I guess by the Google toolbar), I couldn't see whether the site actually did have malware in it (which I doubt would affect Firefox anyway); it could be that this was the result of a temporary hacking and will be reversed. But is that site an official or an unofficial band site, anyway? (What's an "official unofficial" site?) That affects its standing in the external links policy assuming the badware goes away. [[User:Dtobias|*Dan T.*]] ([[User talk:Dtobias|talk]]) 12:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
: I'm using Firefox too and this site does in fact show up as an attack site, which means instead of going to the site a warning page appears. The linked [http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-GB&site=http://www.pixiesmusic.com/ Google diagnostic page] reports that out of the 108 pages tested, only one contained malicious software. I don't think that is enough to warrant its removal. I agreed that the phrase "official unofficial" should not be used as it doesn't sound very good and I couldn't see the phrase used anywhere on the site itself. - [[User:Kollision|kollision]] ([[User talk:Kollision|talk]]) 13:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

: The attack site issue was resolved a while back... the host company had an issue and all sites hosted were affected. This has since been resolved. --[[User:Madtempest|Madtempest]] ([[User talk:Madtempest|talk]]) 14:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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== News about a new Pixies record ==

Hey, CloudNine, Have you see this? http://www.nme.com/news/pixies/39327

Don't forget to edit the "Reunion" section. According to Frank Black, Pixies reunion isn't over at all, and the band could return to studio soon. [[User:Red-E|Red-E]] ([[User talk:Red-E|talk]]) 15:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Reference no. 74 leads to a dead link. The correct one is http://www.nme.com/news/pixies/45571.

== Covers ==
I believe the "Covers" section requires more research. For example, it lists "Hang On to Your Ego" as a cover. This song was not covored by the Pixies, it was covored by Frank Black as a solo artist. It is from his album "Frank Black." The section lists a number of songs that were not covored by the Pixies. [[User:Pajaeslick|Pajaeslick]] ([[User talk:Pajaeslick|talk]]) 18:23, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:I was wondering about that too just now when I re-read the article for the first time in a while and saw that "Hang on to Your Ego" had been added. OK, just now I did a little Internet search and it seems there is a bootleg Pixies version of the song in existence, but shouldn't that be mentioned in the article, rather than treating it the same as all the other covers listed, all of which have been officially released? Since this is a FA whose documentation standards are required to be very high, ideally there should also be a citation from a reputable source mentioning this cover. I'm going to add a {{fact}} request there for the time being. [[User:Moisejp|Moisejp]] ([[User talk:Moisejp|talk]]) 01:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:Also, the covers seem to listed in random order. Would it be an idea to put them in chronological or alphabetical order? [[User:Moisejp|Moisejp]] ([[User talk:Moisejp|talk]]) 01:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism 4/27/09 ==

On the "television appearances and videos" section there is a screen cap of the Velouria music video with the following under it; "IMAGE COPYRIGHT THE PIXIES. THERE FUCKING HAPPY NOW?" obviously someone REALLY wants to have the Velouria screen cap on there and skip any copyright/fair use procedures. I would change it, but I'm sure since this was a featured article there is a team of people who will fix this. Just thought I'd point it out. [[User:Michael Betancourt|Michael Betancourt]] ([[User talk:Michael Betancourt|talk]]) 21:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
:I have deleted this, before reading the note. You can do it yourself as there is no team of people looking after featured articles in particular just users who watch articles they are interested in. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 22:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

== Hurricane Festival ==

They are playing at Hurricane Festival in Germany in about 4 weeks, I just noticed that some other festivals were mentioned, wondering if this is include-worthy? [[User:Aaadddaaammm|Aaadddaaammm]] ([[User talk:Aaadddaaammm|talk]]) 17:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Pixies vs The Pixies ==

I hate to open up this can of worms again, but here goes anyway....

A user recently went through the article and added "The" to every single mention of the word Pixies, in response to which someone else removed them all. The truth is more complicated - although Pixies is the official name of the band, the band members themselves are not particularly precious about this and usually refer to the group in interviews etc as "The Pixies". There's even a compilation album that uses this form of the group's name (''Death to the Pixies'').

I think they should be referred to as "Pixies" in the introductory sentence, infobox etc but then as "the Pixies" with no capital on "the" (except at the start of sentences, obviously) after that. What do other people think? [[User:MFlet1|MFlet1]] ([[User talk:MFlet1|talk]]) 12:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:Exactly. It's not as complicated as everyone's making it out to be. You can use "the" even if it's not part of the name. Look at [[United States of America]]:
:<blockquote>The '''United States of America''' is a federal constitutional republic...</blockquote>
:Look through some [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 2009|recent featured articles]] and you'll find a dozen articles that do exactly the same thing. The word "the" isn't part of the name but it's still added to make the sentence more natural. Like you said, the band members do it this way, as does the record label (''Death to the Pixies''). Normal people say "the Pixies", professional writers say "the Pixies" ([http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:wifrxqr5ldhe]). There are a few sources that write "he was a member of Pixies" but they're outnumbered, trying to enforce a weird brand of English that will never catch on. Wikipedia reflects common usage, not the whims of a few pedants. —[[User:Noisalt|Noisalt]] ([[User talk:Noisalt|talk]]) 15:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

::True. Having said that I've noticed that the articles about [[Editors]] and [[Doves]] refrain from using "the", but then that's different since no one ever refers to them as The Editors or The Doves, whereas "The Pixies" is in general use to refer to the band, as you say. This reminds me a bit of the debate on the Beatles article a while ago where people were in all seriousness arguing that band names should be treated as singular, e.g. "The Beatles was a group..." !!

::I agree that Wikipedia should not be the preserve of pedants, but there's a fair few people who would take the opposite view! [[User:MFlet1|MFlet1]] ([[User talk:MFlet1|talk]]) 16:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted twice a change to remove "The" from a new editor assuming that the consensus is still to use "The" in this article as per this discussion & its presence when the article was promoted to FA. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 21:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I have removed the "The"s from the article's instances of "The Pixies" for a few reasons. While "The Pixies" has commonly become adopted as the correct way of referring to Pixies, it is not a name that they used or adopted officially; they have written their name as "The Pixies" various times throughout their career but still promote themselves as--and release music as--"Pixies". Also, the reasoning that "The Pixies" sounds more natural and correct when using it in a sentence negates the fact that saying the name of the band by itself is also grammatically and structurally correct. Lastly, it seems that the widely accepted usage of "The Pixies" only exists because people believe that band names require a "The" in front of a band whose name is plural; it is irrelevant to many people that "The" has never been part of how they refer to themselves as promotionally or commercially.

I have not removed personal quotes, works of art, or articles usages of the word "The" for obvious reasons. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.32.99.66|68.32.99.66]] ([[User talk:68.32.99.66|talk]]) 01:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I have reverted this change to remove "The" from the article until such time a a new consensus is agreed on the talk page over this. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 01:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for not properly explaining the edits, not entering into a discussion with me about it, and referring to a non-existent consensus in your removal of my revisions. That sure helps convey a proper, accurate relay of information to the public. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.32.99.66|68.32.99.66]] ([[User talk:68.32.99.66|talk]]) 02:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== New album? ==

In the last paragraph, someone paraphrased a news story from NME from June '09 talking about the possibility of a new Pixies album. The source link is dead, and I cannot find a story like that anywhere on NME. Can anyone confirm this story, or should it be removed? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.234.192.10|67.234.192.10]] ([[User talk:67.234.192.10|talk]]) 15:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

http://www.nme.com/news/pixies/45571 confirmed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.79.25.125|82.79.25.125]] ([[User talk:82.79.25.125|talk]]) 05:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Grunge ==

I think the word grunge in the opening statement is wrong. Grunge is a specific style of sludgey guitars more akin to the likes of Melvins and Nirvana. Pixies were far more experimental in style with short snappy songs, mexican/surf influence and surreal lyrics. Also "Angst" isn't a defining characteristic of Pixies as it is in grunge. The only traits of grunge that can be found in Pixies are their eschewing of the rock star persona, the loud/quiet dynamic and their eventual influence on grunge bands like Nirvana. I think the term alternative rock (or even art rock) would be more appropriate. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.46.255.109|86.46.255.109]] ([[User talk:86.46.255.109|talk]]) 12:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:We called the Pixies a '''[[Noise pop]]''' band. It seems that nobody knows this genre term anymore. Strange times... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.244.74.127|89.244.74.127]] ([[User talk:89.244.74.127|talk]]) 12:27, 15 May 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Cite detail==
Under the "Awards and achievements" section, here is the link for the "citation needed"

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100_alltime/countdown/cd_list.htm <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.90.216.14|66.90.216.14]] ([[User talk:66.90.216.14|talk]]) 23:09, 10 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I have added this to article. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 21:14, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Shouldn't Grand Duchy be added to "Associated Acts"? ==

--[[User:Bajoran Priest|Bajoran Priest]] ([[User talk:Bajoran Priest|talk]]) 23:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

- Well, I've been bold and added it. Giving that The Amps and The Martinis are mentioned as associated acts, I thought that Grand Duchy are just as appropriate. By the way, Grand Duchy's article looks like it could use some serius work done on it, if anyone's interested. --[[User:Bajoran Priest|Bajoran Priest]] ([[User talk:Bajoran Priest|talk]]) 23:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

-- The important thing is to pass the duchy on the left hand side. [[Special:Contributions/84.111.5.239|84.111.5.239]] ([[User talk:84.111.5.239|talk]]) 13:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== 'Surprise' Concert ==
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/11/mf_ticketmaster/
Is this relevant enough to be added? [[Special:Contributions/99.229.136.196|99.229.136.196]] ([[User talk:99.229.136.196|talk]]) 02:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== FA review issues ==

'''Please fix''' I have noticed some (potential) issues with this FA article:
*Some [[Wikipedia:Recentism|recentism]] with choppy sentences about 2009 and 2010 and an excessively long section about the Chilean miner show. (E.g. is it really noteworthy that the band ''didn't'' play a show in Tel Aviv?)
*Link rot per bare URLs ({{tl|Barelinks}}).
*Use of non-free media: [[:File:PixiesVelouriaVideo.png]]
These are just some cursory observations. I don't know that this is ready for FA review, but these hamper the quality of the article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 02:44, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
:'''Also''' There are some copyediting issues. E.g. the first paragraph under the heading ''Bossanova'', ''Trompe le Monde'', and breakup is only two sentences long and has an unnecessary quotation. Someone should review the text of this as well as the more specific issues mentioned above. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 20:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
All in all a very good article but one sentence just jumps out at me regarding Trompe Le Monde "The album saw the band move in a more popular direction with songs as "Palace of the Brine" and "Trompe Le Monde"" if the writer is implying a more pop style then I just can't see it as these strike me as far more idiosyncratic than anything found on Bossanova, even when compared to Planet of Sound or Head On from the same album which both seem far more main stream than either of the songs previously mentioned. I'm new here so I'm loath to edit the sentence straight away without hearing from the original writer but thoughts are welcome. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BrcBourke|BrcBourke]] ([[User talk:BrcBourke|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BrcBourke|contribs]]) 20:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Sorry didn't know how to sign the previous comment, hope this works [[User:BrcBourke|BrcBourke]] ([[User talk:BrcBourke|talk]]) 20:53, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Subbacultcha (1991) ==

This is a live recording of the Pixies at the Leysin Festival, Switzerland, on 11-07-91 released by "The Swingin' Pigs"
http://www.discogs.com/Pixies-Subbacultcha/release/1598846

Can we put it on here? It's unofficial, am I'm not sure how the whole bootleg category is perceived. What's the word? Pretty great stuff in any case.

[[User:Mechwarrior Puppies|Mechwarrior Puppies]] ([[User talk:Mechwarrior Puppies|talk]]) 06:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

== Consistencies ==

Hi, WesleyDodds! About your recent batch of edits, I would like to bring up the following points related to consistency:
# In the case of the Frank Black quote in the Musical Style section, even if the original writer (or possibly a middleman who transcribed it online, if you happen to be using an intermediary source) mistakenly used a hyphen there instead of an em dash because they didn't know the difference, I really think it is not outside our limits to correct that level of punctuation and to simply write it with an em dash in this Wikipedia article. Whoever wrote or transcribed it with a hyphen did so because they didn't know to make the distinction (lots of folks don't), but they would have used an em dash if they had known—that hyphen is obviously supposed to represent a dash. If throughout the article we have correctly used em dashes, which we do, and then we have this one incorrectly used hyphen, it looks like we have been sloppy and inconsistent. For quoting text with spelling mistakes, we can use "[sic]" to show we are aware of the mistake, but with punctuation we can't do that. Anyway, I just think in this case the hyphen is so clearly supposed to represent a dash that we can assume that's what it is and just use an em dash in the article.
# In your last series of edits you cut the reference for the B-Sides album, but I think you meant to cut the one for the BBC album, which is right next to it, and which you had cut before. Whichever the case may be, you wrote that we don't need a citation to prove that an album was released. Fair enough, but at the same time I personally don't think it hurts to leave the citations in. However, the most important issue for me is consistency. If you strongly believe that the citation should not be there, I ask you to be consistent and to cut all the other ones that indicate an album's or DVD's release. There are quite a few. (Yes, it was probably me who added most of them—but I am happy enough to have them there, and don't really want to go through the bother of deciding which of them to cut and which to not—but if you want to, do by all means, but please do so consistently and thoroughly.) There are some ones that are "borderline", such as refs 56 and 57 which were meant to not only show that the Pixies album was released, but also that it came out on different record labels in the States and UK. The B-Sides ref was used not only to show that the album came out, but also in its liner notes Frank Blank explicitly says it's Kim's vocals on "Into the White" and "I've Been Waiting for You" and Lovering on "Make Believe" and to show the songwriting credits for these. Anyhow, I'm not saying these last ones necessarily should or shouldn't be kept, I'm just saying there are some grey areas, and I'd like to have a clearly defined rationale for where we draw the line for what to cite. And I kind of think, wouldn't it be easier to just to leave all the citations in, which don't hurt anyone by being there? But again, if you strongly believe differently, do cut the ones you want, but please do so consistently.
# I noticed you cut the sentence about Lovering having co-writing credit for "Levitate Me". I don't have a really strong opinion about this, but I just thought that if we are mentioning Deal's three songwriting contributions, shouldn't we mention Lovering's one? Or if we don't mention Lovering's should we take out Deal's? I prefer to leave in at least Deal's, but again for consistency, I think it'd be a idea to reinstate Lovering's.<br />
Cheers! [[User:Moisejp|Moisejp]] ([[User talk:Moisejp|talk]]) 03:01, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

== Where is My Mind question ==

Hi. I've raised a question on the talkpage [[Talk:Where_Is_My_Mind%3F#Microsoft_Kinect|here]]. Thanks. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 13:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

==Allison...==

I found out the only reason Allison's article was deleted was because it was dreadfully cited, so I may make a new article properly cited since it already proves notability. Also the song Hey has been in multiple movies and had radio airplay so I may attempt making that article as well. Sincerely, --[[User:Mrmoustache14|Mrmoustache14]] ([[User talk:Mrmoustache14|talk]]) 23:59, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

==Legacy section==
Hi -- sorry if I do this wrong (first time). I think the block quote in this section is misattributed. I believe it was David Bowie who said [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7VhNjZXALU this]. [[User:Jbrittholbrook|Jbrittholbrook]] ([[User talk:Jbrittholbrook|talk]]) 05:19, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

== April Fool's Day TFA ==

I've nominated this article for running on Main Page on April 1st 2013. See [[Wikipedia:April_Fool%27s_Main_Page/Featured_Article#Pixies]] --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 13:58, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

== Better picture ==
For anyone with an offical account here at Wikipedia, I would just like to suggest that the current picture is replaced with [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PixiesLights.jpg this one], since it is newer, with better resolution and also less blurry. --[[Special:Contributions/195.75.73.1|195.75.73.1]] ([[User talk:195.75.73.1|talk]]) 10:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

== Tyrannosaurus Sex? ==

Someone added a new item to the Discography section, Tyrannosaurus Sex. I don't think that this is real, as I can find no official mentions of it from the Pixies' website, nor elsewhere.
[[Special:Contributions/98.22.214.23|98.22.214.23]] ([[User talk:98.22.214.23|talk]]) 05:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

== "Compressed songwriting" ==

Can anyone say exactly what this phrase means? If not then I would suggest removing it. [[User:MFlet1|MFlet1]] ([[User talk:MFlet1|talk]]) 11:08, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2014 ==

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The band is called "Pixies" not "The Pixies." Also, it should be "Pixies is" not "The Pixies are"

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[[User:Hoyticus|Hoyticus]] ([[User talk:Hoyticus|talk]]) 02:45, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> I don't see anything here that needs to be changed. I see no-where in the article where they are referred to as "'''The Pixies'''" and "The '''Pixies'''" is proper English. Also, "The '''Pixies''' are an American ..." is more grammatically correct than "'''Pixies''' is an American ..." — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]&#125;&#125;</span> <sup>([[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup> 03:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::Also see previous discussions on the subject above and in page archives. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 12:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

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== Combating ticket touts ==

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== 1.1 Formation ==

The opening paragraph explains how Joey Santiago and Black Francis met. In the beginning of the paragraph the sentence " Although Santiago was worried about distractions, he noticed Francis played music and the pair began to jam together" appears. The first half of that sentence really serves no purpose and distracts from the main idea of this paragraph. I think it should be removed because it is distracting [[User:Lazzaro798|Lazzaro798]] ([[User talk:Lazzaro798|talk]]) 06:31, 31 March 2019 (UTC) [[User:Lazzaro798|Lazzaro798]] ([[User talk:Lazzaro798|talk]]) 06:31, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

== 1.1 Formation ==

The Pixies moved rehearsals to Lovering's parents' garage in mid-1986[9][13] and began to play shows at bars in the Boston area.[1]

The word "the" at the beginning of this sentence should be removed. The band should be referred to as just "pixies"
[[User:Lazzaro798|Lazzaro798]] ([[User talk:Lazzaro798|talk]]) 06:36, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

== Reunion ==

In 2005, the band made appearances at festivals including Lollapalooza,[77] "T on the Fringe",[78] and the Newport Folk Festival.[79] They continued to make appearances through 2006 and 2007,[80][81] culminating in their first-ever appearances in Australia.[82] Since 2005, Francis has at various times stated that the Pixies recording a new studio album was either a possibility,[83][84][85] or an unlikelihood,[86][87] the main obstacle being Deal's reluctance to do so.[88][89]

The portion of the sentence "culminating in their first-ever appearances in Australia." seems a bit off topic. Yes they traveled their, but it pales in significance to the rest of the sentence and serves no real purpose. 06:45, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[[User:Lazzaro798|Lazzaro798]] ([[User talk:Lazzaro798|talk]])

== Requested move 12 May 2019 ==
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== Pixies at the BBC, 1998-91 ==
The result of the move request was: There is rough consensus that as the plural of [[pixie]] it is most appropriate to redirect there; many editors referred to [[WP:RPURPOSE]]. Those opposing mainly did so based on their personal preference, without giving any evidence of a primary topic &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:44, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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Should the 2024 BBC sessions compliation ''Pixies at the BBC, 1988-91'' (24 tracks, 2 CD or triple vinyl, [https://shop.4ad.com/release/437127-pixies-pixies-at-the-bbc-1988-91 4AD shop link]) be regarded as an expanded re-release of the 1998 compilation ''[[Pixies at the BBC]]'' (15 tracks, 1 CD), on which we already have an article, or as an entirely new release? The 4AD page calls it a "reboot". Asking here rather than at the talk pages for the 1998 version or for the discography for wider attention. [[User:Rbrwr|rbrwr]][[User talk:Rbrwr|<sup>&plusmn;</sup>]] 12:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


:Bumping this because it immediately got knocked off people's watchlists by a bot removing an older discussion. I'd also like to flag up a very picky question about the 1990 "Peel session" that I have asked at [[Talk:Pixies at the BBC]]. [[User:Rbrwr|rbrwr]][[User talk:Rbrwr|<sup>&plusmn;</sup>]] 14:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
[[:Pixies]] → {{no redirect|Pixies (band)}} – [[WP:ASTONISH]] DAB from [[Pixie]], [[Pixies (Artemis Fowl)]], [[Pixies (EP)]], [[Pixies (film)]], [[Pixies (The Fairly OddParents)]] and [[Pixies (Winx Club)]]. Even though readers are used to seeing things at the plural and the band does get more views [[https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Pixie|Pixies|Pixies_(EP)|Pixies_(film)|Pixies_(Winx_Club)|Pixies_(Artemis_Fowl)|Pixies_(The_Fairly_OddParents)]] there are a number of other articles. The creature is probably primary by PT#2 and per [[WP:NOPRIMARY]] a DAB page makes sense. The band is named after the creature though it appears the name was selected somewhat randomly but the creatures do frequently come in the plural. I suggest that for the same reason as at [[Talk:Hearts]] that we have a separate "Pixies" DAB page since only the creature would be searched/referred to interchangeably as "Pixie"/"Pixies" however like at [[Talk:Spades (card game)#Requested move 28 April 2019]] it might still be preferred to have a single DAB, thus "Pixies" redirecting to [[Pixie (disambiguation)]]. There was an old RM at [[Talk:Pixies/Archive 1#Requested move]] so [[The Pixies]] is another option. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 18:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom - no clear primary topic. <small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 18:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*I would also note that the category is at [[:Category:Pixies (band)]] as a result of [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 August 22#Category:Pixies]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 19:03, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support move''' per [[WP:ASTONISH]]. Redirect to [[pixie]] per [[WP:RPURPOSE]] (simple plural of a common word), and oppose creation of another DAB page when so few relevant entries per [[WP:DABCOMBINE]]. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 19:37, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
**<small>lol. you may have been right in the first place, they could put Tinker Bell into a sideshow and make a mint. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 19:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC) </small>
*'''Support''' Redirect to [[pixie]] per [[WP:RPURPOSE]] [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 19:54, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*I would note that the plural "Pixies" appears 58 times in the article [[Pixie]]. However I don't think we should make the creature primary per [[User:Andrewa/Incoming links]] and PT#1. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 20:07, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''', is this [[Friends]] again? Exactly where the confusion between the band and the creatures arises? Do you have evidence people arriving at the band are looking the creatures, not only to move the band, but to redirect 2,000 daily people there? By the way, there are not "many" articles, solely there are the band, a film and an album by the band, the other are merely topics. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|©]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color: #6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #555555;"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 20:09, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*:As noted I don't think we should redirect "Pixies" to [[Pixie]] but rather have no PT. There is confusion because the creature commonly comes in the plural. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 20:11, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
::"There is confusion because the creature commonly comes in the plural". According to what? Opinions and Wikipedia are not reliable sources. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|©]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color: #6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #555555;"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 20:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Well its just you're opinion that the band is primary (you haven't cited any evidence to suggest it is and 2 editors above think that the creature is primary) and classes of things are frequently referred to in the plural its just WP convention that we use plurals ([[WP:PLURAL]]), per [[WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT]] a different title may be a competitor (or even be primary!) for a term such as [[Bones]], [[Cars]] and [[Cats]]. In this case I'm asking far less than what has been done at Bones, that is, that there is no primary topic, isn't that a reasonable compromise? '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 20:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm not opposed to move the band, I'm opposed to the BS nominations you keep doing over plurals without citing anything other than "on Commons" or "per X". We are not a dictionary. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|©]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color: #6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #555555;"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 20:42, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Redirect to [[pixie]]. The band has that name not because they coined a new word to show their originality, but because they chose a word referring to a longstanding historical topic, so that they could instantly evoke that topic. Wikipedia's business, however, is being an encyclopedia, not promoting bands and films and sports teams that choose common nouns as their names. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
:Thank God Madonna coined "[[Rebel Heart]]". Or didn't she... [[WP:CC-BY-SA|©]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color: #6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #555555;"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 20:44, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
:: Since "Rebel Heart" is ''not'' the name of any specific longstanding historical topic, this comment is of no value to the discussion. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 17:57, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Perhaps you should travel to Ireland before asserting it is not a "longstanding historical" term. [[By the Way]], are [[Ice Cube]]s relevant enough for you? Because there are hundreds of similar examples. We are an encyclopedia not a dictionary. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|©]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color: #6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color: #555555;"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 23:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
::::[[By the Way]] is in no way comparable since we don't (and it doesn't look like we [[WP:RED|could]]) [[WP:NOTDIC|have]] an article on the general meaning of that word, secondly per [[WP:DIFFCAPS]] (like [[Iron maiden]]/[[Iron Maiden]]) if we did that would be located at [[By the way]] (lower case "w"). Similarly while the rapper is at [[Ice Cube]] (upper case "C") the frozen water is at [[Ice cube]] (lower case "c"). However in this case even if you type "pixies" (lower case "p") as opposed to "Pixies" (upper case "P") you still end up on the band article, same goes with "Friends" v "friends". If it was possible to title the 1st letter differently then I would be happy with having "Pixies" about the band and "pixies" redirect to the article on the creature (with appropriate hatnotes on both articles, such as "for the creature, see [[pixies]], for other uses see [[Pixies (disambiguation)]]"). The same goes with Friends. However since both "friends" and "pixies" have encyclopedia articles and DIFFCAPS doesn't work, disambiguation is needed for both. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 20:09, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Weak oppose''' I think "Pixies" is the primary topic (for the band), but do understand that it could be confusing. As this is a Featured Article, I'm surprised this hasn't come up before, and I would be happy to leave it were it is, and retain the hatnote. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 15:00, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
*I would note that there was another CFD at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 March 23#Pixies (band)]] where there was consensus against renaming the category to just [[:Category:Pixies]] (although ambiguity and plural PTs are far more of an issue in category namespace than article namespace). I also disambiguated the [[Commons:Category:Pixies|Commons category]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 21:03, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. This is the primary topic, like [[Friends]]. '''<span style="border: 1px #8C001A solid;background:#8C001A">[[User:Calidum|<span style="color: #FFFDD0;">Calidum</span>]]</span>''' 14:23, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
*:Isn't this more comparable to [[Parachutes]] and [[Bookends]]? '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 17:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
*::And [[Adulterers]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 09:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. "Pixie" describes the things, Pixies the [beloved] band. See also the hatnote for the confused. [[User talk:Ceoil|<font color="#006633">Ceoil</font>]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 10:37, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
** Isn't the band usually described as "The" Pixies? If you were going to see them in concert, would you say, "I'm going to see Pixies", or "I'm going to see The Pixies"? No matter the title, [[The Pixies]] will redirect to the article on the band. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 04:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
***Yes indeed some of the titles of pages on their website to indeed use "The Pixies" while I don't think The Pixies is preferred per [[WP:THE]], it could be used as [[WP:NATURAL|natural]] disambiguation. And yes while our NC can be [[User:Crouch, Swale/NC v PT|taken into account]] when determining primary topic, they aren't conclusive (since its clear that this band fails PT#2). Again I'd point to [[Bones]]/[[Bones (TV series)]], [[Cats]]/[[Cats (musical)]], [[Cars]]/[[Cars (film)]], [[Bookends]]/[[Bookends (album)]], [[Blossoms]]/[[Blossoms (band)]] and [[Parachutes]]/[[Parachutes (album)]] where even though the "thing" is described at the singular, the plural form redirects there. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 07:17, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: Yeah, I would just expand the original article. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 14:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Please note the redirect may not be retargeted until all of the incoming links are sorted out. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:59, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:48, 13 April 2024

Featured articlePixies (band) is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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October 22, 2006Featured article candidatePromoted
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Pixies at the BBC, 1998-91[edit]

Should the 2024 BBC sessions compliation Pixies at the BBC, 1988-91 (24 tracks, 2 CD or triple vinyl, 4AD shop link) be regarded as an expanded re-release of the 1998 compilation Pixies at the BBC (15 tracks, 1 CD), on which we already have an article, or as an entirely new release? The 4AD page calls it a "reboot". Asking here rather than at the talk pages for the 1998 version or for the discography for wider attention. rbrwr± 12:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bumping this because it immediately got knocked off people's watchlists by a bot removing an older discussion. I'd also like to flag up a very picky question about the 1990 "Peel session" that I have asked at Talk:Pixies at the BBC. rbrwr± 14:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I would just expand the original article. Black Kite (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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