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== Criteria for inclusion? ==
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What are the criteria for inclusion in this list for a polity? Shouldn't they be written explicitly in the lead? I propose something like: "The criteria for inclusion mean that a polity must disobey the established government and hold any populated or inhabited town, city, village, or defined area that is under the its direct administration or military control" --[[User:Whymant|Whymant]] ([[User talk:Whymant|talk]]) 09:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

::I think the lead is pretty clear as it is. Any entity included in the list should include "[[rebel groups]]" that "control territory" (meaning administration or military control of any populated or inhabited town, city, village, or defined area). The statement you made about 'disobediance' is vague and imprecise, it would not be useful as criteria as it would leave much to interpretation by editors, and thus [[WP:OR]]. - [[User:Wiz9999|Wiz9999]] ([[User talk:Wiz9999|talk]]) 15:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

== Zapatistas ==

From what I have read, the Zapatistas (EZLN) are no longer in an armed struggle for independence. They are stable, they seem to have better social services than Mexico itself, Mexico seems to be okay with having them around, and the only threat to them at this point seems to be minor right-wing militias. I think that they should be moved from "Rebel Groups that Control Territory" to "States with Limited Recognition", but I don't want to make this action unilaterally. (This is the right place to put this proposal, right?) Anyways, your thoughts on this? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CircularToucan|CircularToucan]] ([[User talk:CircularToucan#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CircularToucan|contribs]]) </span> <small>02:08, 16 May 2021 (UTC)</small>

:Please provide your source for this inclusion. - [[User:Wiz9999|Wiz9999]] ([[User talk:Wiz9999|talk]]) 14:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:CircularToucan|CircularToucan]] @[[User:Wiz9999|Wiz9999]] If a a polity does not claim independence, then it can not be included in the [[list of states with limited recognition]], see [[List of states with limited recognition#Criteria for inclusion|criteria for inclusion]] [[User:Delasse|Delasse]] ([[User talk:Delasse|talk]]) 16:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

== OLF/OLA ==

According to the detailed map for conflict in Ethiopia the OLF/OLA does in fact control territory.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ethiopian_wars_and_insurgencies_detailed_map</ref>--[[User:Garmin21|Garmin21]] ([[User talk:Garmin21|talk]]) 22:55, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
: That would require source other than wikipedia itself. [[User:Borysk5|Borysk5]] ([[User talk:Borysk5|talk]]) 07:09, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria for inclusion?[edit]

What are the criteria for inclusion in this list for a polity? Shouldn't they be written explicitly in the lead? I propose something like: "The criteria for inclusion mean that a polity must disobey the established government and hold any populated or inhabited town, city, village, or defined area that is under the its direct administration or military control" --Whymant (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think the lead is pretty clear as it is. Any entity included in the list should include "rebel groups" that "control territory" (meaning administration or military control of any populated or inhabited town, city, village, or defined area). The statement you made about 'disobediance' is vague and imprecise, it would not be useful as criteria as it would leave much to interpretation by editors, and thus WP:OR. - Wiz9999 (talk) 15:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zapatistas[edit]

From what I have read, the Zapatistas (EZLN) are no longer in an armed struggle for independence. They are stable, they seem to have better social services than Mexico itself, Mexico seems to be okay with having them around, and the only threat to them at this point seems to be minor right-wing militias. I think that they should be moved from "Rebel Groups that Control Territory" to "States with Limited Recognition", but I don't want to make this action unilaterally. (This is the right place to put this proposal, right?) Anyways, your thoughts on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CircularToucan (talkcontribs) 02:08, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide your source for this inclusion. - Wiz9999 (talk) 14:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@CircularToucan @Wiz9999 If a a polity does not claim independence, then it can not be included in the list of states with limited recognition, see criteria for inclusion Delasse (talk) 16:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OLF/OLA[edit]

According to the detailed map for conflict in Ethiopia the OLF/OLA does in fact control territory.[1]--Garmin21 (talk) 22:55, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That would require source other than wikipedia itself. Borysk5 (talk) 07:09, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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