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===[[user:gadugi]] requests administrative sanctions and dispute resolution against [[user:karmosin]]===
===[[user:gadugi]] requests administrative sanctions and dispute resolution against [[user:karmosin]]===
An Afd process was commeneced by me aganst page [[ah-ni-yv-wi-ya]]. The Afd process concluded with Karmosin putting forward views that the page should be redirected and merged. The majority rejected his views. After the Afd ended, Karmosin vandalized then blanked the page in question, then out of retaliation flagged a page which had just completed Afd that morning for a second Afd process. I want 1) the Afd reverted on page [[Gadugi]] and Karmosin sanctioned for violating wiki/Wales policy of We Are Nice People Who Do Not Act This Way. On his user page his lists himself as a "rebel" which isn't something that fits in with Wiki's peaceful honeybee [[meme]]. While I respect all peoples right to their views and opinions, after an Afd completes, nominating pages out of retaliation in an attempt to oppress the majority is improper. I would like this user punished for 1) violating policies and 2) wasting yet more of my valuable time answering stupid and frivolous Afd requests and 3) interfering with me writing more articles.
An Afd process was commeneced by me aganst page [[ah-ni-yv-wi-ya]]. The Afd process concluded with Karmosin putting forward views that the page should be redirected and merged. The majority rejected his views. After the Afd ended, Karmosin vandalized then blanked the page in question, then out of retaliation flagged a page which had just completed Afd that morning for a second Afd process. I want 1) the Afd reverted on page [[Gadugi]] and Karmosin sanctioned for violating wiki/Wales policy of We Are Nice People Who Do Not Act This Way. On his user page his lists himself as a "rebel" which isn't something that fits in with Wiki's peaceful honeybee [[meme]]. While I respect all peoples right to their views and opinions, after an Afd completes, nominating pages out of retaliation in an attempt to oppress the majority is improper. I would like this user punished for 1) violating policies and 2) wasting yet more of my valuable time answering stupid and frivolous Afd requests and 3) interfering with me writing more articles. UPDATE: Karmosin is also making RACIST STATEMENTS on the Afd page for [[Cherokee Moons Ceremonies]] which attack my race and culture calling my work "Cherokee-Cruft". This conduct is WHOLLY unacceptable.

Revision as of 06:35, 25 September 2005

This article serves no purpose other than as a redirect to Cherokee. Like I've pointed out several times before, we don't keep native names of nationalities or ethnic groups separate from the English terms. "(die) Deutschen" is not separate from German people and "Dansker" is not separate from Danish people. This is no different.

People have demaned that if this article be redirected, the information contained in the article has to be merged, yet the linguistic information already exists in the only relevant article I'm aware of; Cherokee language. The only difference is that it's properly formatted instead of being presented in a rather anecdotal fashion. The rest of the info (the first paragraph) has already been included in Cherokee.

Peter Isotalo 02:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In a culture where the language and religious beliefs evolved together, this word has very special meanings and is worthy of a unique and distinct article. As this article has survived an Afd, and this view was already proposed and rejected by the majority voters, Karmosen is simply continuing his argument because he did not get his way. Please accept the ruling of the majority and focus somewhere else in WP. Thanks. 67.177.35.211 05:34, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

" ....People (only Karmosen) have demaned that if this article be redirected, the information contained in the article has to be merged, yet the linguistic information already exists (False, it does not already exist) in the only relevant article I'm aware of; Cherokee language (again false). The only difference is that it's properly formatted instead of being presented in a rather anecdotal fashion. The rest of the info (the first paragraph) has already been included in Cherokee. ..."

Also, this statement is totally false. In addition to being a false representation of reality, it also evidences intellectual dishonesty IMHO on the part of someone who did not get their way, and is this point in the discussion, borders on disruption. 67.177.35.211 05:37, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for WP:RFM Opened Against User Karmosin

user:gadugi requests administrative sanctions and dispute resolution against user:karmosin

An Afd process was commeneced by me aganst page ah-ni-yv-wi-ya. The Afd process concluded with Karmosin putting forward views that the page should be redirected and merged. The majority rejected his views. After the Afd ended, Karmosin vandalized then blanked the page in question, then out of retaliation flagged a page which had just completed Afd that morning for a second Afd process. I want 1) the Afd reverted on page Gadugi and Karmosin sanctioned for violating wiki/Wales policy of We Are Nice People Who Do Not Act This Way. On his user page his lists himself as a "rebel" which isn't something that fits in with Wiki's peaceful honeybee meme. While I respect all peoples right to their views and opinions, after an Afd completes, nominating pages out of retaliation in an attempt to oppress the majority is improper. I would like this user punished for 1) violating policies and 2) wasting yet more of my valuable time answering stupid and frivolous Afd requests and 3) interfering with me writing more articles. UPDATE: Karmosin is also making RACIST STATEMENTS on the Afd page for Cherokee Moons Ceremonies which attack my race and culture calling my work "Cherokee-Cruft". This conduct is WHOLLY unacceptable.