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File:The Inglehart-Welzel World Cultural Map (2020).jpg

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The file is copied from the website: https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSContents.jsp This site has copyright note thus this fil is not under free licence. 81.18.214.18 19:29, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the past, that website has copied content from Wikipedia without adjusting its license (en:Talk:World_Values_Survey#WVS_and_copying_from_Wikipedia). Are we sure they have not copied this file from us? Also, is this copyrightable at all? We have recreations in Category:Inglehart–Welzel cultural map of the world. Ping authors of other variants such as User:Мечников, User:Paracel63 , User:Chrugel, User:Snubcube , User:Travürsa, User:Koyos, User:DancingPhilosopher. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 08:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is this about the whole category? It seems, from the linked discussion page, that this is a complicated issue. Myself, I tried to contact them on a related issue a while back, but never got an answer. Now I tried it again, hoping for some response this time around. I mentioned the possibility of CC-tagging their maps, if that's what they want. Paracel63 (talk) 10:58, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The file has been uploaded without information about licence. Uploader linked only to above mentioned website – this is only that is reason enough to delete the file. So far, there is no confirmation that this file is under free licence. Aotearoa (talk) 07:54, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Aotearoa: In hidden code
I enclose the e-mail message that was returned to me Wednesday morning. I advised Kseniya Kizilova to try to be part of this deletion discussion / contact an administrator here at Wikimedia Commons. Feel free to contact Kizilova to get additional information. Hopefully there can be a fruitful discussion, as now WVSA is in contact with us.--Paracel63 (talk) 23:04, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Paracel63 Excellent progress (I'd suggest using some hide/show templates for the email but that's a technicality). If you haven't, I suggest asking them to feel in the Commons:Email templates OTRS copyright form, which will make our more procedural-mined colleagues happy (or if they are reading our discussion here, I hope they'll just do it without prompting). Regarding the copyright issue, I think my analysis from 2017 was pretty comprehensive, and rather than figuring out who copied what, it's best to focus on good intentions and our mutual desire to popularize WVS's findings (incidentally, just few days ago, I wrote the Polish Wikipedia entry on the pl:Mapa kulturowa Ingleharta–Welzela). The best thing to do, which I strongly encourage WVS team to consider, is to licence all content on their website under a Creative-Commons Attribution-Sharealike licence, which is the very same one Wikipedia is using. It's free to implement, requires just a statement of licence added to WVS website, and it will allow copyright-hassle reuse (but with attribution) of WVS content on Wikipedia and beyond, and vice versa (WVS will be likewise able to copy anything they want from Wikipedia, Commons and other affiliated projects). In the spirit of w:Academic Spring and like, I hope we can not only solve the issue of images for illustrating Wikipedia, but move the entire WVS project to the new era of copyright. Feel free to ask me for more information if needed. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:31, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have contacted them in the past, but I cannot find my old correspondence - sufficient to say I never got any usable reply regarding copyright, at best "yes you can use it" that's not sufficient for OTRS. Maybe this time we will get a response, and they'll agree to licence their maps / data / text under a free licence. Considering they plagiarized content from Wikipedia before, it's high time they did the right thing. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:03, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Like Many thanks for the answer. I mentioned the CC licensing need to wvsa.secretariat@gmail.com (but didn't specify more). As of now I don't have time to handle this process in length, due to IRL considerations. Feel more than free to contact WVSA through the above e-mail link, to get things going. All the best. Paracel63 (talk) 11:20, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I hope that the WVSA people are reading this and can follow the instructions at Commons:Email templates. If they have any questions, I'd be happy to assist, and I can be contacted through my talkpages, here (although a ping would be nice), or by email (available from my userpages here and on other wikis or google'able as I use my real name and I am an academic too). [1] Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Paracel63 Did you hear anything from them? Did they initiate the OTRS procedure by sending a an email with the permission? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Piotrus I have no time to deal with this issue right now. As I said earlier, "Feel more than free to contact WVSA through the above e-mail link, to get things going". Please leave me off this subject as of now and use this contact opening to make things happen, if you think you have the time to deal with it. E-mail address to contact: wvsa.secretariat@gmail.com. Many thanks in advance. Paracel63 (talk) 11:37, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I sent them an email an hour ago, will update people here when I get a reply. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 11:42, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"The World Values Survey data is publicly available for free and has been downloaded by over 100,000 researchers, journalists, policy-makers and others." [2] Znakin (talk) 13:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It appears I can't share a direct link. It's under 'What we do' - 'Data Dissemination' category on the website. Znakin (talk) 13:46, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is not in line with Wikipedia Commons' requirements regarding permitted licenses. This file still hasn't correct licence. 1 month of discussion is enough – there was a month to add a proper license, but apart from making some promises, nothing has been done. Therefore, the file should be deleted. According to the Commons policy, the uploader is required to add the appropriate license, without it the file is deleted. Aotearoa (talk) 06:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The file has a CC BY-SA license now. I cannot see who added it. I have written to the WVS again explaining the problem with an unclear license. The file is too important to delete without doing all effort to resolve the bureaucratic problems. The website says publicly available for free (see Znakin's link). This should be enough to avoid legal problems. Agnerf (talk) 09:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The licence CC BY-SA was wrong (added without authorization). On the website the information "Copyright @2020 World Values Survey Association" is still placed. Importance of the file is irrelevant – only a correct license is important to keep the file. Aotearoa (talk) 09:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Yann (talk) 21:08, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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